Will a /cv/ (classic video games) even work since /vr / will never take 6th gen and up systems that were already...

reminder that 6th gen was the best one with the best consoles and the best games

>want to discuss game collecting for niche consoles
>have of the niche consoles came after 1999, so threads deleted on /vr/, and zoomers don't know nor care about them so no threads on Zig Forums
I just want to talk about the N-Gage dagnabbit

The year 1999 is never going to move

>The 6th gen is totally retro and is much more similar to the 5th gen than to the 7th gen
AHAHAHAHAHAHA FAGGOT

Why is 2000 the cutoff? What's so special about that year?

To add to this 5th gen is closer to 6th gen than 4th gen.

vidya started the slow roll downhill, what with dlc, paid online, and so forth.

literally every console in the 6th gen could connect to the internet in some capacity and half of them even had actual DLC

Neither of those became big until 7th-gen. Also, the Sega Saturn had online capabilities, and the Dreamcast could connect to the Internet.

Sixth gen had dlc/microtransactions

Was just about the post this. That user is retarded.

This. I'm disgusted by all the PS2/GC DLC

this
leave them alone

Sure. Let's ignore the movie game trend that started with the ps1.

And you think that 1999 will hold any special meaning by the time when people who actually lived back then are dead? Ok, it’s one thing to discuss what belongs in /vr/ NOW and another to discuss what ”retro” will mean in 20 or 50 years or so, but really, anyone who thinks that the current definition of ”retro” in general is timeless is retarded.

Yeah, the first 6 gens go in pairs. 1 and 2 were early "home arcade" stuff, 3 and 4 were the era of Nintendo and increasingly complex pixel games, and 5 and 6 were lowpoly/early 3d. 7 and 8, I think, buck the trend a bit since 8 feels pretty different to 7 imo. That's probably because generations have gotten longer, so 1 gen now is like 2 before.

GameCube didn't really have DLC. The closest you got was connecting the GBA, and that's really more like an Expansion Pak than anything else.

not retro

but it IS the best wrpg ever made

The PlayStation 2 is older than the PlayStation 1 was when /vr/ opened
I do understand why they don't allow them, though. The sixth generation (Specifically Grand Theft Auto) is when games really started to become modern, and the seventh generation is when games were BAD. They're getting okay again though which I'm pretty stoked about.

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Back then I couldn't imagine games would start sucking as bad as they do now. Had no idea I was seeing the peak.

And how many games used it? Most people probably didn't even realize their consoles could connect to the internet at the time. I never knew my Gamecube could connect to the internet as a kid.

Retro should just be based on how gaming exists as a medium
Currently 7th 8th and seemingly next Gen are all extremely similar, so 6th Gen and back are retro. Eventually stuff will change and this landscape will no longer exist, and then these consoles will be retro. I don't see this happening for a long time though

Do you guys really consider the sixth gen to be “low poly”? I certainly don’t. Many games from that era still look pretty good.

Older GTA games like GTA III, Vice City, and San Andreas were definitely old-school.

the real problem is: we wanna you shitposting niggers out of /vr/. just think of the volume of shitposting that even allowing even the first xbox in would bring.

Dreamcast is already listed as ok on /vr/

But honestly I feel the reason it's not really accepted isn't really the age. More that a lot of the modern game idea started on the 6th gen. The move to a higher polygon count meant lots of the weird/fun deform look was gone so games started to get more "realistic" in a way. GTA 3 helped pushed the open world to what it is now. Online became standard on the consoles.

>paid online
Xbox Live
>DLC
SOCOM 3, I'm sure there were earlier examples.

The Xbox came with broadband connectivity right out of the box and the PS2 had a decent amount of games that had online play. You’re remembering wrong.

>GTA III, Vice City, and San Andreas were definitely old-school.

Find me 5 games from 5th gen that can compare

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Switch is 9th gen

The 7th and 8th generations are the closest ones yet.
Everything from the way the games look to the game mechanics to business practices. The 8th generation is nothing more than an extension of the 7th.
Playing CoD on a PS3 feels the exact same as playing CoD on a PS4.

og mechassault had paid dlc, too. and I'm fairly certain that was a launch title, no less.

I'm not saying it didn't exist during the sixth gen, but it didn't really become huge until the seventh. The Xbox is kind of a special case, since it had Xbox Live like you said, and that's the one sixth-gen console that I don't quite consider old-school.

NInja Gaiden, Splinter cell, MG3, Halo 2 all had dlc or microtransactions

I'd be down for a board dedicated to Gamecube/Wii era games, they're definitely a different breed from retro games and modern games

You're retarded but whatever
>You can't have two in one gen!!!!!
2600 and 5200 IDIOT

Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask both had open-worlds.

I don't personally but I can see how some anons do because it's the last gen with no "approaching realistic" graphics. Gen 7 was when graphical advancemeny began to plateau, and many gen 9 games being shown off now look barely improved since then.

However, I also think graphical quality is arbitrary for determining whether something should be considered retro or not as well.

Does Wii U count if nobody knows it exists?

Dream cast has online and it known because of phantasy star online

Switch is 8th gen.
Wii U is 7th gen.
Wii is 6th gen.

/vr/ should be everything that isn't the current gen and the last gen. So right now anything from PS2 era or before is in, once PS5 hits, anything from PS3 era or before is in, etc etc.

>Acting like nintendo even cares about competition any more
Red ocean, bitch

The fourth generation had dlc too
see Sonic 3 and Knuckles

you're right, and they hate you for it

RRRREEEEE NON ONONO N O

Why?

If Zig Forums can have successful 00s anime and older threads, why can't you retards?

I'm actually pretty hype about next-gen. The 7th gen was a disaster that's belongs in the garbage dump of history aside from a few standouts like Dark Souls. But this generation has gotten better as its gone on, and it seems like we're getting to the point that indie games can have good production values. I'm excited to see what indie devs will do with the new hardware, especially since the extra power overhead will allow them to push more graphics without really knowing what they're doing on optimization.
The 7th generation was the era of everything being dumbed down for normies, moviegames, shit brown and barf green color palettes on everything, milsim shooters, and the death of smaller dev studios.

In the 8th generation, color is back in, stylized graphics are back in, difficulty is back in, and indie studios have exploded in popularity and replaced the void left by the smaller devs that died in the 7th gen.

Yeah, not like the early years of console development were wrought with strange tendencies and uneasy footing, and also no way that Nintendo is planning on keeping the Switch around for a long time due to its success. If they launch their next console 3 years before PS6 next gen will you say that's part of the same gen too?

Tech. Nintendo has been a generation behind since the Wii.

Oh user no just no

We're gamers, we're special

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But Dreamcast is considered retro on /vr/. The reason is because /vr/ puts the cutoff at 2000. Like I said, why? What's so special about that year?

While I don't think the PS3 will be retro for a while (due to the PS3 and PS4 generations being so similar), I do think that would make the most sense when determining whether something is retro or not.

graphics

6th gen will never be retro, retards. Just like the "oldies" will never stop meaning 60-70s music. Make your own label for new school consoles like gamecube

I played Quake III and Unreal Tournament online quite a bit with my Dreamcast.

Big number go up

I wish /vr/ would take those pic relateds so I just go there and be in peace

Because /vr/ is retarded and trying to relive their childhoods

yes

GameCube is 100% old-school. It had the same old-school aesthetics as the N64. New-school starts with the Wii.

>Just like the "oldies" will never stop meaning 60-70s music.
user, the "oldies" is 40's-50's.

Everybody?

Most of my PS2 time was spent online playing Timesplitters FP, Resident Evil Outbreak, Jak X, Evetquest OA, Twisted Metal Black, Socom and many other games.

Yes. To be fair, it's a lot more apparent when you play the games on emulators at high resolution. When you play them on a CRT the way they were designed to be played it smoothed over a lot of the rough edges and polygon seams. But when you play on an emulator in HD the individual polygons become immediately apparent.

Going by these standards what exactly is keeping from 7th gen open world games from being old school? Gta 4 is close to gta san adreas

Zig Forums can combine comic books and cartoons but we can't have one board for games and old games.

their worlds were divided up into varies subsections

So it's literally just because 2000 is the first four-digit year that starts with a 2? That's retarded.

>It had the same old-school aesthetics as the N64
lol no

I overpaid for a copy of F-Zero GX and the game is beautiful. Even supports 16:9.

Lol yes. Notice Final Destination in the top-left, from a GAMECUBE game.

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It's the other way around. Dreamcast is not considered retro because the cutoff is 2000, the cutoff is 2000 BECAUSE Dreamcast is considered retro. They wanted to talk about 80's & 90's games, and Dreamcast games, and 1999/2000 was convenient for them to choose because it let them include the Dreamcast while also excluding PS2, GC, Xbox, and GBA.

Yes, and also 3d games as a medium became more polished in the sixth gen

2000 is still the 20th century

>The 7th generation was the era of everything being dumbed down for normies, moviegames, shit brown and barf green color palettes on everything, milsim shooters, and the death of smaller dev studios.
Literally all of that is still present in the industry today. And old studios keep dying and new ones taking their place.
>In the 8th generation, color is back in, stylized graphics are back in, difficulty is back in, and indie studios have exploded in popularity and replaced the void left by the smaller devs that died in the 7th gen.
And you're acting as if there were no "smaller devs" in the 7th gen, which is not true at all.
Just look at the amount of indie games in the XBLA, for example.
As for "colour" and whatnot, that's just the games you play. There were games like that in the 7th gen, there are games like that now.