"bro dw it gets good after complete kill boar quest for 80 hours"

>massively multiplayer
>everyone thinks this means ~20 man coop vs braindead AI
how did this happen

Did you play any of them?
Explain fuhrer. What do you do in "real MMO"?

I played all of the ones I listed, yes.

interact with a greater number of players than in conventional multiplayer games

WoW is boring as fuck
Literally just button smash grind to make numbers bigger bro
Not a single hint of thinking or strategy needed

>What do you do in "real MMO"?
ERP and dress up.

The 80 hours of boar quests are fun though. Maybe you chose a class that isn't for you, or maybe you're playing wrong.

>t. shit player
I'd love to duel you with no gear on.

>sitting in PVP-enabled Izlude
>chatting with randos
>suddenly Assasin Cross comes in
>EDP
>begins killing randoms
>friendly chatters turn PVP mode and hunt down assassin
>Assassin instagibs some weaklings
>Assassin finally caught and killed
>He's back with friends
>suddenly Izlude turns into an all out war
>dead people just chatting as normal
Raids are for scrubs who hate organic interaction and want others to be forced to interact with them.

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You can do this in any MMO. However this is what anons in Zig Forums call RP tranny. Nothing stops you from interaction with others. Clearly not raids.

uninventive grinding is a shit aspect of mmo's though and not all mmo's have it, mostly the ones that want you to play for as long as possible to drag out your sub

So all interaction you talking about is just PVP? Well there is PVP MMOs on market. L2

I meant playing the game with, not chatting in instanced fantasy town

>played this
>took a long-ass time to hit 60 because I started a week late, played meme class
>got a raiding guild that was unironically okay with me being boomkin as long as I used at least decent consumables
>was actually pulling fair DEEPS
>gf gets mad I'm putting so much time in
>have to quit
>quarantine starts
>y-you can play WoW again if you want

It's too fucking late now I'm so behind the curve and as an owl no less. Plus she'd obviously get jealous of my time spent, again.

>plays mmo
>doesnt actually enjoy the people he plays with

hmm

I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said you hate organic interaction.
You just don't know what it is and I feel for you. You're not going to be able to find a game like Ragnarok Online again.
Everything is so instanced and solo-focused nowadays.

>just ignore 90% of content and do PvP bro
Some MMOs do it better and have good PVM and economy

>raiding isn't playing the game with others
are you retarded

>I meant playing the game
What is playing the game with? Explain.
>not chatting in instanced fantasy town
Funny but isn't this is opposite? MMO supposed to give you freedom but now "chatting in instanced fantasy town" is not right way to play game? I'm confused.

Better than playing lineage 2 and stacking 50 spiders to gain 0,1% exp

Zg just came out, you can get geared up pretty fast plus all guilds have mc and bwl on farm so it should not be difficult to catch up

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why do retards keep saying it's "too late"? every guild still does molten core weekly and many will accept players with less than pre-bis. it's also easy as fuck to find ZG pugs.

What I mean is - yes PvP can require some thinking but the rest doesn't so for me it doesn't make the game good. You can do almost all non PvP content spamming the same combos

Why not just play Ragnarok Online? The game is still alive. What's the point in new MMO if old one is perfect. No one cares about raids or new content. You're create content.

>the rest doesn't
let's see your mythic raid achieves.

Old mmos did it right, pve is strictly for getting gear in order to grief other players better. Modern pve in which you are expected to wipe 100 times on a boss in order to get gear that will become useless in the next tier is retarded

>tfw stacking seals and otters at Comodo beach, hiding, and Grimtoothing them to death
Take me back

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>why do retards keep saying it's "too late"?
I like BWL progression, it was pretty much the absolute peak of the expansion for me. If it's on farm that just makes it worse.

Its too late to play with the scene of private server players who were waiting 15 years for classic, but its by no means ever going to be too late to play when blizzard can comfortably make classic servers over and over

It's actually best time to experience old style wow. The new wave of players are just bad as old vanilla one.

Fuck off ESL.

It was a private server. Because I didn't feel like spending my time as a 13 year old grinding a 1x server.
It's.... 17... years later
I wouldn't even be good at the 50/50/30 server I played anymore...
Where do the years go...

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dw bro it will get good at the end of the year

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>bwl
>progression
lmao. every guild worth a damn was done bwl within days. there is no progression in classic.

it's doing pve with a small number of people. can you guys not read more than 1 post or something

I never said no chatting allowed retard

OP do you have any knowledge of WoW other than from that one South Park episode?

Its good from level 1 to 59. The only bad content is 60.

Journey not the destination bro, learn how to make friends for once in your life.

i never played wow only ff11 senpai, but all the pre blizz mmo's were all like that it's not that difficult to find out...

>a small number of people
>small
what other genre has 40 person co-op pve?

Except literally every single coop RPG/ARPG ever, including games with infinitely better combat like MH.

I don't know, but shooters had 32 vs 32, a much higher total, and they are not considered massively multiplayer

>MH
>4 player co-op
lmao. MH isn't like MMOs at all you fucking troglodyte.

>shooters had 32 vs 32
what mental gymnastics did you do to convince yourself that this counts as co-op PVE?

What started as an experiment to create a video game where the content was thousands of players interacting became a day care where you could see other kids but everyone had their own playground.

Outside of a very very small selection of games like EvE, very few true MMOs exist. WoW is just a online RPG, nothing more.

I agree, honestly I think that if I could have chosen when to start playing the game I would have started now. I think it will become “too late to join” only when naxx releases and classic dies

>I meant playing the game with
So interaction in MMO means 200 vs 200 PVP only?

Then it's not too late in classic for me, but too late in years. Guess I'm not missing out.

what mental gymnastics did you do to convince yourself that massively multiplayer means co-op pve

where did I say that

What mental gymnastics did you do to convince yourself that killing imaginary monsters with other people would be a different social experience?

It gets good as soon as you run your first instance with your buddies. You do have friends, right OP?