New platforms by new companies

Anyone else would like to see some new competition in the console space?
The whole sony/microsoft/nintendo thing is getting old.
Could Sega, realistically, make a new platform again? Not even talking about a high-spec machine, but maybe a handheld to compete with the Switch? If not, is there some other company who could do this (except for a*ple and g*ogle, of course)?

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Good hardware gets cheaper all the time. There are probably a bunch of companies that could get into the console business. The real question is why would you want them to?

Doubtful, Sega is too incompetent to properly handle their own franchises, another console from them would just be a repeat of the past, but with no Genesis Golden era. No one else seems to be interested in consoles and the business model itself is going die sooner or later.

because I'm bored
Playstation and Xbox are the only home console makers nowadays, and who knows if Xbox will last another gen
Nintendo has a monopoly on handheld gaming now (the alternative is to play shitty mobile "games" filled with ads and microtransactions)
I just would like to see new, interesting platforms in the market

There is a higher chance of Valve making a Steam Machine 2 than a new console than Sega.

why ask stupid questions like this? never ever is the only answer

sega is woefully unprepared, outclassed and outspent by all three platform holders. it would be economic suicide for them.

SEGA is dead user, Sammy bought it and raped it to oblivion, I can't imagine SEGA-SAMMY being albe to produce enough games for a console

But outside of gimmicky shit, which usually ends up hindering game play more often than helping, all it accomplishes is creating another closed ecosystem that you have to buy for the 2-3 games actually worth playing.
Personally I think we just need longer console cycles. Development times are grtting ridiculous and the investment consoles require doesn't seem worth the value they offer anymore. Just my 2 cents.

If SEGA went back to making hardware, a gaming phone with built in buttons would probably be their best chance.
Gaming phones aren't huge but I think it's an untapped market

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There's no need for longer release cycles with the direction the PS5 and Xbox Series X seem to be going in (considering they're both forwards and backwards compatible). They have essentially been turned into highly standardised PCs benefiting from economies of scale (also making compatibility more confusing for customers). At least they're giving it proper amounts of RAM rather than the PS3's ridiculously small 256MB which had to last quite long.

If you're paying attention to the stuff Valve is working on in their open source projects, second-gen Steam Machines are extremely likely. Consider that when the first-gen Steam Machines launched:
Vulkan wasn't finalized yet.
RadeonSI wasn't really usable yet.
RadV didn't exist.
DXVK didn't exist.
Proton didn't exist.
Gamescope didn't exist.

We're almost certainly going to see a Valve Steam Machine again at some point using AMD hardware.

The fact that you would even ask this shows how out of touch you are with the current landscape.

I don't think I agree. In fact, I think the half step increments that MS and Sony are committing to is just going to heavily fracture playerbases. Asking consumers to upgrade their $500 machine every three years is going to bite them hard, and future comp. Only works for so long before the games are simply too much for the older machines to handle.

If the 3 year cycle becomes the norm for these systems game devs will likely simply adopt a 'two most recent' or latest only policy. Not too different from game companies allowing a game to run on a system that only has legacy D3D11, or requiring the latest Vulkan in order to function.

Yeah, see, the thing is that normies aren't going to commit to these things. They want a fairly priced machine that will play all the new games for the next 6-8 years. It's why the PS3 sold like shit until major price cuts.

I want sega to make a handheld based on the Vita.

It wouldn't make any sense for them to produce a new handheld based on such old and outdated hardware.

SEGA is pants on head retarded, they can barely handle/afford to greenlight games from IPs they own, let alone an entire fucking console

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No of course not. It's a good thing that console exclusives are becoming less of a thing and the trend is heading towards PC again, adding more platforms would just add more of the aids that is exclusivity deals.

>gaming phone
All my vomit

going third party was the best decision they ever made, why would they go back

>The whole sony/microsoft/nintendo thing is getting old.
Don't worry: Soon it will be Nintendo only since Sony and Microsoft only focus at virtue signaling crap and barely at video games.

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Why? What's the fucking point? Everything is just a fucking shitty PC with multimedia features. There's no God damn point.

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Dreamcast 2!

The industry is moving into streaming and playing on any device anywhere you want and building data centers is expensive as fuck so you certainly won't be seeing the likes of Sega making a comeback. You want new competition? Amazon, Apple, Google and Tencent. That is the future whether you want to accept it or not.

>The industry is moving into streaming

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Yes.

The point for Microsoft is to kill the PC as a device users would want to have at home so they can capture a large segment of the market in an entirely proprietary environment. Other companies with that goal like Apple would have plenty of reason to jump into that market.

On the other hand, companies like Valve who are dependent on open platforms would love to have an open PC platform succeed as a 'console' by making a system that just works with a completely pain free interface. Anyone who has used a modern GNU/Linux distro with Steam Big Picture on a PC running well supported AMD hardware with the Linux exclusive open source drivers knows they're pretty close to succeeding.

Anyone who cares about a good experience will never accept streaming. If it gets popular, it will be in the same way as mobile did; only the normiest of normies use it and it's a joke to everyone else.

That's why Stadia has been such a massive fucking success, right? Oh wait....

Playstation Now is doing great, huh? So is Onlive for that matter and most people have adopted Stadia at this point.

Yep, it's great being able to play a 500mb game at a rate of 6gb per hour via a laggy video stream. What a smart, economical idea this is!

No. I want there to be less.
Just fucking Xbox for people who are too retarded for PC and PC for everything else.
handhelds are neat they should all just make new hybrid handhelds instead if they have to.

>make a console and not a pc wannabe
thats why i would want sega coming back
but then
>saturn and dreamcast
>everyone and their mother crying for exclusives because they are poor

Its like streaming music vs vinyl. It may be a shittier experience, but its way easier for people and way more profitable for the industry.

Google wants it because they have a diverse collection of platforms most of which can't compete in terms of hardware, and so Stadia gives developers a single GNU/Linux+Vulkan platform to support which can then be delivered to any device.
Microsoft on the other hand wants it because developers who get locked into Microsoft's APIs won't be able to go to any other hosted game streaming service, so they'll have complete control in a way they don't today.

On the other hand, just like vinyl game streaming isn't going to destroy local play, its just going to become a more niche activity than it is today.

What said. Sega is too incompetent.

Besides, the console marketspace is going to be oversaturated when Sega enters, and Sega doesn't have the financial backing to pull off the infrastructure needed to develop a gaming network like XBox Live or PSN, and they don't even have the backing for R&D and manufacturing to even make a console, even if they use kanban and just-in-time inventory.

Only way it will happen is if Sony fails and exists the console business, and Sega does something amazing and incredibly different that everyone would want, like when the Wii was first release. Sega can only enter in the best case scenario.

Everyone else here who says Sega is retarded/incompetent is dead right. It won't happen for a while, due to Japanese culture, not the xenophobic stuff that fucked over Sega of America, I'm talking about how they don't force certain employees into retirement and don't let go of people, just to save face. Even if those people are incompetent and horrible. The old guard of Sega of Japan is still there, and won't change unless they die of old age, or they decide to retire.

> Asking consumers to upgrade their $500 machine every three years
that's just it, you don't have to.
>Only works for so long before the games are simply too much for the older machines to handle.
Exactly. So it lasts just as long as a console generation or so.
It's just like putting the minimum requirements of a game, only in retardedly straight forward terms
>xbone minimum
>series X minimum
If you buy a series X it will realistically last longer than, say an Xbox 360. Because it will start to get phased out at the end of the "gen" But there is no reason to say, not have shit like cuphead 3 or ori 10 run on it.

>Could Sega, realistically, make a new platform again?
>Not even talking about a high-spec machine, but maybe a handheld to compete with the Switch?
What's gonna be exclusive on in to get people to buy, Yakuza and Sonic?

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>Dreamcast 2
Fucking retard nigger Patrick Kelly Lawson

thats 1 more game than the xbox or playstation for me

Does Bayonetta still belong to Sega?

>never accept streaming
Like with movies/shows?
>it's a joke to everyone else
Literally everyone plays games on smartphones now. It's perfectly normal and acceptable for the kids who grew up with this shit. And the games aren't exactly crappy either anymore. The numbers for some of those titles are fucking insane. Of course big gaming companies will want a slice.

>streaming hundreds of gigs of data is more economical than printing a $2 CD
Streaming isn't gonna take off. You're like those people 10 years ago claiming phones were totally gonna kill handhelds.

more exclusives locked behind platforms just makes things worse for consumers, I don't really see the appeal. I think all of the big 3 switching to software would be best. I wouldn't mind re-releases of retro systems though.

Persona

> the games aren't exactly crappy either anymore
Opinion discarded. Also, games are a whole different ballgame from movies, and especially from music. They have interactivity, introducing the problem of latency, and they're an order of magnitude more expensive to produce and the expected return per player is far higher. Most quality games will never be available on subscription.

>Like with movies/shows?
yes exactly. Although we do have the tech to have proper quality movie streaming, I do it with with Plex we choose not to. Still, gaming is obviously different in that the entire thing is not fucking prerendered.
>Literally everyone plays games on smI smartphones now
I do not so this, and I feel it is an entirel different market with entirely different products.

This SEGA doesn't make 1/10 the games it did during the dreamcast era

I for one LOVE shoving an analog stick in my ear when I talk to friends and family on my S M A R T P H O N E.

I just want to go back to when video game companies were making consoles, instead of just entertainment or technology giants. People complain about closed systems, but you had many different types of games to choose from. PC Engine was king of shmups, and Neo Geo had some crazy shit like Metal Slug or Pulstar.
As of now there's no incentive to do anything particularly bold like that unless you're an indie dev, and even then it's usually pixel art trash. Fact of the matter is, FOMO wasn't much of a thing for us kids in the 4th gen because each platform offered enough to satisfy you for an entire generation, even if some were a little better than others. And I know that's what scaring zoomers into hating the idea of more than 2 platforms. FOMO is a huge thing nowadays.