what went wrong?
Warframe
No end game
DE
Any game that requires you to play with other people to progress will fail
feature creep
make a gameplay element/system > day 1 patch when the players figure out a way to exploit it for unlimited focus/endo/whatever > never mention it again and move on to the next feature.
Then in 8 months when it's irrelevant make a frame with this feature as part of its core mechanic to bring it back into relevance. When were kavats a thing? for 2 months after their release, and then another 2 months when the kavat frame got released.
It's a fun game but it suffers from systems that aren't cohesive, it feels like 10 small games rather than 1 big one.
the open world updates where each zone is just an excuse to grind for new mats.
i dunno. had no reason to play it i guess.
post your hours
was empyrean any good at least?
Digital Extremes are bunch of leaf FAGGOTS
I liked the endless grind the original releases/betas had, it was very simple, and outside of alerts you never had to really think too hard about what to do next, just pick a mission and go.
Now you have a bunch of fucking dailies to cap, and specific mission types for specific types of enemies, gotta work your way up the ladder of mission types to get to the ones that give you shit you actually want, and other garbage.
I've also always hated the mobile game tier real time wait for crafting. Fucking pointless.
Creep.
feature creep, power creep, lore creep, you name it.
Yeah it was so simple and it worked. No dumb fuck lore about kids and operators, just pick a murder machine ninja and GO. Thats the reason why people like the game.
Didn't one of DE's community managers ruthlessly bully the /vg/ clan until they all quit?
>Keeps adding shit that becomes forgotten
It's overly ambitious. Which is ironically also what went right. They take risks often, which don't always pan out, but it's a good game because it takes those risks.
this, they had a good core and then smeared so much antifun shit on top (archwing, rail, open world garbage, that new annoying radio)
i think seasons like PoE would have been good for the game but it's too late to implement now
that said i really liked the story missions but they stopped making those
>grind for a new frame for hours
>have to wait 3 (three) days to craft it
nice system
It's f2p what do you expect.
After your first 2 frames you forget about the timer anyways.
time to spend 3 hours in trade chat selling prime parts so i can rush prime building and buy more warframe slots
DE listening to casuals. PoE eidolon speedruns, a completely accidental feature they never intended, put the game on the map for traditional gamers who wanted a challenge and the number of players EXPLODED. I got into it here from friends saying that the game had "turned a corner" and wasn't the babysitter it started out as. If they continued down this path they'd have conquered Destiny's market. But it made the game's shitters jealous that good groups weren't willing to carry them and they couldn't do just as well soloing so DE fucking wrecked the spider fights in Fortuna and the good players moved on. Same thing happened to raids although they weren't nearly as fun, shitters cried raids died.
Other huge mistakes:
Hiring extremely abusive trannies to police the community because they'd Do It For Free, like pedophiles running a daycare, and defending them when even reddit had enough.
Unbanning the author of a chat scanning bot and giving it special permission to help redditors cheat at trading because they were jealous of the space Jews the Jews weren't cheating, that was max cope, they were just playing to win. This is also "listening to casuals" as the problem.
>no more minmaxing for tier 4 defense
it hurts. i even remember people calling others that camped a specific spawner area 'hallway heroes'.
>retarded enemy AI
>the entirety of the "gameplay" revolves around BIG NUMBERS GETTING BIGGER
>fanbase is stealthily one of the worst out there, only not in the spotlight because the mainstream of vidya doesn't cover Warframe
>DE stands for Digital Excrement because the people in charge don't even play their video game, this is basically a known fact now
>Obsession with "balancing" AKA removing anything fun that players discover
>Badly designed missions
>Nuke frames that allow you to go AFK and let the game idle while you kill entire maps of enemies because the game doesn't have difficulty aside from BIG NUMBERS
>Refuse to listen to your loyal players
>The guys in charge a bunch of boomers that have no direction and discipline, always apologizing for their fuckups but never actually doing anything
I can go on. Some of my favorite weapon designs and frame designs are stuck in this stupid shitty faggot game destined to die. I just wish a more capable studio bought it so that proper work can go into it, and make it as good as it should have been years ago. Right now it's a mishmash of unfinished ideas that will remain unfinished. Bunch of canadian scumfucks also play the victim if their players call them out, too. We never hear anything because again, they're hidden away in their own irrelevancy so they never get the spotlight to show their true colors to everyone.
Void relics were the beginning of the end
hallway hero was reserved for the retard who'd sit in a completely different room than the rest of the team, screwing everyone over because all the spawns would be miles away and they'd end up dying.
NIGGER CHORES. Jesus who thought that was a good idea? I just want to log in and blow shit up in the missions I enjoy, not miss out on umbra forma because I didn't grind daily quests of the most miserable shit the game has to offer. Fuck battle passes and FUCK DE.
I got to the point where you had to grind for resources to grind for keys and find 4 other people with different keys to grind for portals to grind the bosses that give you resources to wait a week to get a gun
It just wasn't really fun any more
>Play up until the second dream
>Had no idea what I was doing other than grinding shit and following the quests
>Feel like I haven't scratched a 1/3 of it
>what went wrong
steve, fatfuck, the mod team, the community managers you fags simp over that enforce censorship
everything is blobs so it's hard to sell cosmetics
don't worry, grinding shit is literally all there is
This lmao
Had no idea what the fuck was going on and then ended up with this chick living in my ship that is also the pilot(?) of the warframe I dont know all I know is she regenerates my energy if i use her to run around
Are rivens still poorly done?
Nerfing things in a game where you don't need to nerf anything as your progress is regulated by mission timers and there's no competition.
Removing movement tech that was doing nothing other than making the game fun.
>developers with absolutely no grasp of time management
>no sensible people to tell their ideas guy of a boss to calm the fuck down with all the experimental garbage
>chink money making bad habits worse because they could just throw around dosh instead of improving
>a shitty jury-rigged version of an at-the-time outdated engine further hampered by the main programmers having left before warframe was even a thing; the list goes on really.
also 10gen. cosmetics should never be the primary content of any game.
Agreed. The person who decided formas deserve to be a silver reward needs to be excuted.
The content is stuck in side-grade hell. Not that there's much of a point in getting stronger, since they haven't made any difficult content in years. Nearly all the new shit they've released has been designed with fairly new players in mind.
Nightwave
the chick is (You)
also you can change the voice if you want to be a shota
>empyrean
>good
everyone call is Failjack.
guess why.
>Is [thing in Warframe] still poorly done?
I think you already know the answer, user
>It's f2p what do you expect.
good monetization and not timewalls.
even fucking Destiny does this better and the fucking expansions go for like 10 bucks in a bundle.
Only retards and morons bitch about the foundry wait times. When you get up and going there are more than enough weapons to master and farm and build at the same time while waiting for new shit to build and be ready.
Destiny 2 has almost the exact same problems as Warframe, except in the opposite direction