We got too cocky consolebros!

i couldn't care less if you don't like it or not. besides, forgive me for not caring if a launch game isn't already at to optimum console power. this doesn’t sway my purchase at all.

If my car ran like shit I'd probably think twice about keeping it

That's all in your TV.

Why make a game run well when you can make it run at silky smooth 19 fps with slowdown during any action and with pre-rendered trailers.

I'm not against consoles by any means, buy your console and enjoy your purchase. Doesn't bother me at all lol. I'm just tired of the console fucking retards spamming tech illiterate non-sense, then getting their ass handed to them, generation after generation. The same guy who says, "Bro, I don't want to fiddle with PC settings, I just wanna chill on my couch, eat dorito, and game bro" goes and writes a five paragraph summary of a PR statement that Sony or Microsoft release. Then they start devising their own retarded calculations in excel and using buzzwords they don't understand. Xbox Series X went from "card comparible to 2070" to "better than 2080 ti because of GDDR bandwith chipz!!!!!!" and the processor went from "comparible to 3700x" to "literally a 3700x, PC IS DEAD!"

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>frames=power

Finally I can play Bloodborne at 30FPS

Honestly, if it’s a solid 30 FPS, I don’t care. It’s when the frame rate changes up and down that it’s a problem. 60 FPS is fine, but there’s a lot of sacrifices developers need to make, and I’d rather they stick with something solid than push too hard. It’s a new gen, devs need time to push it harder.

Having more frames gives you a better gameplay experience.

I kinda feel that 30fps is better for some games. Makes them look more cinematic. But of course i want atleast some kind of 60fps mode for all games.

4k/30fps or even 1080p/30fps with amazing graphics would be fine for me. But 1080p/1440p/60fps mode with it

Hz? What the fuck is he on about? If the next gen consoles only had 30 Hz support that’d be fucking ridiculously shitty

seriously i can understand preferring higher framerates, but the ones who act like anything below 60 fps is unplayable just scream zoomer to me

So dose better graphics, ray tracing, richer environment, more NPCs and denser environment.

Stuff that is secondary to gameplay. Hell, I've been running games at 144fps for years on my PC, wish consoles had that option.

I expect after decades of consoles existing that they could at least try running all their games at 60fps.

With the new console hardware, they can totally make 60fps work at 1080p, or at least the OPTION to have 60fps gameplay. Like how on the PC you can lower the graphics to make the game run better. I much prefer a smooth gaming experience than a chunky prettier one.

I don't understand why people are were expecting this in the first place. Sure some games might hit that speed, but it won't be without compromises, I highly doubt the best looking games of this gen will run at 4k 60fps. If it was 1080p, for-sure, easily every game would run at 60fps+. But developers will always prioritize (especially first party) graphical fidelity over fps, its much more easier to sell a majority of customers over graphics than it is fps.

Yeah, consumers watching vidya trailers aren't able to play the trailer. They can only see the graphics. Which is why graphics are pushed so hard on these consoles, wish it wasn't true but thats the reality.

Who has 144fps tv? I recomende visiting /outside/ sometimes.

And people were expecting 4K 120fps games hahahahahahahaha.

5.5gbps ssd's aren't enough to push frames past 30fps It's all marketing bullshit.

I said it multiple times keep your expectations low ssd's were available for years on PC and only loading times are noticeable It won't make your cheap console pump out higher fps.

We can conclude from this that the PS5 needs more raw power aka TFLOPS.

I think the issue is at this point consoles should at least be able to maintain a rock solid 30 FPS, but shit still dips into the 20s or even sometimes the teens.

I like it. it's proof that we're moving ahead technologically, even though my eyes can't tell the difference between Sekiro and high-end gamecube grafics.

Sorry brother, 30 fps doesn't make games more cinematic. The reason 24 fps looks best for movies is because cameras have something called shutter speed, which is how long the camera sensor accepts light per frame. Using the 180 rule to apply your shutter speed (meaning 1/48th of a second per frame at 24 fps) gives you that cinematic feeling during recording where stuff isn't "too fluid" or looks weird like the hobbit movie does (shot in 48 fps). The standard for framerate has been 24 for LITERALLY almost 100 years now at this point, so looking at anything else looks weird (FOR FILM). However, games do not have shutter speed, so it doesn't equate.

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I recommend knowing what a 144fps monitor is like. Consoles have been limited to 30fps and at max 60fps for too long, TVs have little need to have 144hz. While PC gaming has always had the ability so monitor makers prioritize it. Not hard to understand

Too long, didnt read.

We were talking about consoles here. Is there even 144fps tv? Who would buy console and then some shitty pc monitor?

Enjoy being a stupid nigger then lol

>looses argument
>use n-word.
Like clockwork

Jesus, ESL apes are getting dumber by the day

Your attention span abysmal lmao.

And I prefer gaming on a monitor, I've already explained why 144hz TVs aren't common place, most console gamers play on a TV. Most PC gamers play on a monitor. 144hz monitors are more popular than 144hz TVs because consoles can't reach 144fps but PCs can. What don't you get?

Bioshock 1 and 2 had a feature on consoles where you could lower certain graphics features for a higher framerate. Why don't more developers give players the option?

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Because you're blind. There are zero games on the gamecube that look on par with Sekiro in terms of graphical fidelity, although you can make an argument for overall art style being stronger on some of them.

Developers too lazy because they know most of their consooomer market don't ask for it.

>wish consoles had that option.

You own words retard. Even if 144 was option. They couldn't make use of it.

There was no argument, you are just a retard. Hopefully someone with a brain more malleable than a rock (not you, unfortunately) reads my comment and learns something new.

Because most people don't give a shit and it's just extra dev time to implement. The vast majority of people playing games go "ohhhh shiny graphics" and then proceed to drop any given game less than a third of the way through if you go by average tracked achievements.

Then walk away idiot if you are so sure that you are winner. Just walk away.

Listen retard, the reason 144hz TVs aren't popular is because CONSOLES couldn't do 144fps. People would buy these higher refresh rate TVs if they had a reason, the PC market mostly use monitors (they have the option to use TVs but monitors are more prevalent). If consoles gained the option, TV manufacturers would make higher refresh rate TVs

>n-word

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>comes in many forms, and frame-rate is just one of them
And the most important one of them.
But retards are impressed by flashy lights so special effects masturbation has always taken front seat.

That said, we're at the point where the practicality of more graphical improvements is hitting the wall, and hard.
Your average person is impressed by shiny special effects, the average person also either can't tell or doesn't care about the difference between 1080p and 4k.
Now you're gonna try and sell to people consoles that (supposedly) do 8k and think anyone other than the .001% of people that even own an 8k tv even care?
Do you know how many people watch 4k shows on their 1080p 50 inch tv's high on their smugness and farts for how superior 4k looks?

People see big number and go "ooohhhh".

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You are so assbackward that you dont make any sense at all.

>loses argument
>denies losing because too much of a brain let to admit he's wrong

Congratulations

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I can't beat the shit out of you without getting closer.

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You know most people don't use TVs for gaming, right?

You know the majority of consoles are played on **shock** the TV

Everything post GC has just been improving the look of dirt and making people uglier. Which is a riot because Real Life is full of color and beautiful people, so games were more realistic before.

How fucking retarded do you hvave to be to think people don't play console games on TVs? This is just bait, no way anyone is this retarded.

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Either it's bait and I'm getting played. Or it's not, and it's a retard.