I own a PS4 and i would be totally fine with it. I can't think of one game that runs at 60fps that isn't a remaster or port
Hell i would even be glad if the PS5 would ONLY output in 1080p but run smoothly with 60fps
Do you guys think we will ever see 60fps games on consoles like in the good old SNES days? Or is it all movie trash from now on
because 60fps games look like dogshit, and 1080p looks like dogshit on my 4k display. If your game isn't a fighter, racer, or some hack n slash action game i don't give two shits about 60 fps.
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everyone please ignore this faggot retard
>i don't give two shits about 60fps
sounds like poorfag mentality
i'd sooner run my games at 8k with my gtx2080ti than care about 60fps, but sure i'm the poor one here. Get a grip.
I think you mean movies
You're not poor, you just have poor taste.
Because 60 fps doesn't sell, high res/poly does.
>Do you guys think we will ever see 60fps games on consoles like in the good old SNES days?
Pretty much no chance of that happening for even 50% of console games. The hardware on consoles is just not fast enough to run games at more than 30fps without dropping the visual quality down to runescape levels. You can thank the previous generation of developers trying to compete visually with PC on what was basically iPad hardware and made shit framerates a normal thing for console games. They should have just stuck to a level of visual fidelity that the systems could actually handle.
>Halo 5 is 60 fps
>wow, sounds great!
>except it's got the smallest levels
>reduced npc count
>worse a.i.
>worse physics and animations
>and it looks bad
Why is 60 fps so great again?
No can run at 1080p/60 on PS4. It's just too much.
Dumb ESL
I remember playing San Andreas on PC some years ago. Physics go wonky at 60 fps, and one of the things that happens is the seaplane can't take off from water. Had to turn on framerate limiter down to 30 to temporarily unfuck the physics and I legitimately felt nauseous, no exaggeration.
30 fps is outright unplayable. I'd sooner turn down graphics to minimum and resolution to 800x600 than play anything at 30.
Actually San Andreas runs at 25 fps.
Because in still screenshots fancy high-res graphics with tons of detail are way more impressive to smoothbrains than the knowledge that the game will run smoothly.
Even watching gameplay videos doesn't give a proper feel for it since a gameplay video could be running at 24 fps and still be "cinematic" and nice to watch since ou're not having to connect what's happening on screen to your own control inputs.
Those points you listed are what console games ought to be and it's dumb to think they should try to be anything more. Having more complex games running at lower fps is like someone selling you a full sized fridge and saying "it only gets half as cold as one of these expensive windows fridges, but hey it's full sized at least"
>Because in still screenshots fancy high-res graphics with tons of detail are way more impressive
But they already release bullshots that look way better than final product. Maybe make it run nicely after you downgrade it at least?
ran at 30 on PC. Even checked with fraps becaause I just couldn't believe how awful it was.
Except even with video it's blatantly obvious when the framerate is 60. Any time a YT video is at 60fps I instantly notice. But yeah. Graphics are easier to market than performance, which is why graphics will always take priority over framerate, AI, gameplay, performance, and just about every othther aspect of a game.
Oh yeah, I'm not saying you can't see a difference between a 60fps video and a 30 fps video on youtube. But while simply watching at 30fps or even as low as 24 is bearable, actually attempting to play at 24 feels like you're trying to control a powerpoint presentation.
>it's only the greatest game ever made
>also it's 30 frames
cope. Imagine if they had to reduce all the interactive elements with the environment, remove accurate hit reactions, reduce enemy count, half the level sizes, remove interesting a.i. patterns...and all for what? To save 30ms of controller response for this non-competitive single player game? Go enjoy your whack a mole corridor shooters like COD if 60 fps is the most important thing in a game to you.
>I can't think of one game that runs at 60fps that isn't a remaster or port
Port? Do you mean multiplats if you are talking exclusives Fist of the North Star and Gt sport run at 60fps but why would you purposely limit yourself to only exclusives?
It might be somehow converting 25 to 30. But it does render at 25 on both PC and PS2. GTA III and VC ran at 30.
But then they wouldn't be able to advertise 4k, and neither would the game publishers.
I KNOW its pedantic bullshit that seems like nonsense to core gamers, but if they think it will make the difference in sales, they'll do it. 4k is hot right now and they want it on the side of the box.
Why do you think Sony is pressing hard on the SSD of the PS5, when it actually makes no fucking difference whatsoever as to whether or not the games will be fun?
Sales, sales, sales.
>60fps games look like dogshit
how?
Why the FUCK didn't you rotate your image
What is WRONG WITH YOU, OP
>Do you guys think we will ever see 60fps games on consoles like in the good old SNES days? Or is it all movie trash from now on
Yeah like star fox and doom on the Super Nintendo with their silky smooth 60fps
Because saying "we have 60fps" doesnt move product like "we do 4k" even if its upscaled. Console players dont care, they just want to say they have 4k even if they dont own 4k displays.
that would require games to be optimized and cleanly coded. do you really think AAA game companies will do that?
we have 60fps is harder to do because as a console manufacturer they can’t mandate that other companies make every game 60fps.
Good point. The hardware is capable of 60fps, just up to the developers to decide if they want it that way or not at the cost of resolution.
Pretty much publishers/developers have all the say even to the platform holders. Take our 25-30fps shit or get nothing
when devs decide not to be lazy