>people think soulslikes are any less played out than bamham shit
Fuck you fags. "Souls clone" is a whole fucking genre.
People think soulslikes are any less played out than bamham shit
Ayden Perry
Justin Nguyen
>makes a post about Souls games
>posts a game that isn't Souls
But yeah, Souls clones are shit
Adam Rogers
"muh jumping muh parry muh no RPG elements"
Sekiro is soulslike, man.
Mason Perry
>same develoepr as souls
>same systems + parry
>die twice lose your souls, i mean gold and experience
>exploration and boss grinder like every souls game
Lincoln Ross
>axe attachment
>he's just holding the axe
What's so fucking special about it, then?
Juan James
It's a cool axe
Kayden Rodriguez
i don't understand the argument about soulslikes not being a genre. do they not undeeatans how language works, or never heard of the term metroidvania? anything can be a genre if enough people agree it is
Carter Allen
>muh no RPG elements
This is a huge difference though
>same systems + parry
I don't remember magic, summoning or dodge rolling in Sekiro
>die twice lose your souls
Having a punishment for death doesn't make it Souls
>exploration and boss grinder like every souls game
What do this even mean? Interconnected openish areas don't equal Souls. Is Resident Evil now a Souls game too? Neither do challenging bosses
Leo Bell
I don't think there's any debate over it not being a genre. My gripe is that people seem to act like "souls like" is any less played out than bamham stuff like Morder and Ghosts of weeb.
Samuel Cook
Every single one of the clones is factually terrible and there exist only 4 good Souls games.
Demon, Dark 1, Blood and Sekiro.
Get fucked.
Robert Allen
no i heard some folks on Zig Forums before saying its not a genre just because its a clone and brought up mortal kombat clones and how none of those game aren't considered a genre
Alexander Gonzalez
A whole genre that consists entirely of Souls and a few absolute garbage games mimicking its gameplay?
Chase Cooper
>no stamina bar
>only one weapon
>no souls currency
>no corpse run
>no stats
>jumping
>stealthing
>grappling
>swimming
>few i-frames on dodges
>no character customization
>no armor or alternate clothes
>Japanese setting
>Japanese dub
Literally the only thing that works the same as in Souls is the lock-on. Not even the basic attacks work the same.
By the way, none of the things you mentioned are specific to Souls.
Jack Diaz
>Sekiro
Fundamentally a different game
Ayden Jackson
Not too mention more direct story, Skill Tree instead of stats, and prosthetics
James Ross
sekiro had tools instead, which are spells with a different skin unless you're been an obtuse faggot. summoning is a crutch for bads who cant beat bosses. dodging was also dodge rolling with a different skin. you're being a dumb a dumb contrarian faggot and you know it.
Juan Sanchez
>which are spells with a different skin unless you're been an obtuse faggot
An axe is magic now?
Jose Parker
>dodging was also dodge rolling with a different skin
Dodging in Sekiro isn't nearly as viable as in Souls, with the flow of combat in Sekiro being fundamentally different
Camden Anderson
Let's make a list.
Demon's Souls
Dark Souls
Dark Souls 2
Dark Souls 3
Bloodborne
Nioh
Nioh 2
Code Vein
The Surge
The Surge 2
Lords of the Fallen
Remnant from The Ashes
Ashen
What else I'm missing? Sekiro doesn't count because it lacks most of the genre's defining traits. 2D games don't count because being 2D makes them a completely different beast, usually a Metroid-like or Symphony of the Night-like or just a straight action platformer like Strider.
Nathaniel Nelson
Yeah, would be like comparing Tekken and Soul Calibur
Eli Jones
>undeeatans
holy shit how did i fuck that up, looks like i don't understand how language works
Parker Russell
>sekiro plays differently from souls
>played out
Haha yeah sure retard
Sebastian Hall
And when looking at this it's only Fromsoft games and Nioh that are actually well liked, with the rest being more mixed
Jacob Perry
Bamham combat is shit and souls combat is good, so I don't mind it.
Jeremiah Diaz
Maybe companies should make games with unique gameplay instead of just ripping off other games
Alexander Reyes
it's spring loaded, it's attached to his arm and springs into his hand
Chase Lee
The only game in this genre that I played was Demon's Souls and I got filtered by Flamelurker. Should I give any other game a try? Has to be on pc though.
Julian Garcia
It was Sekijo's weapon.
Bentley Russell
>played out
>maybe half a dozen or so good games released for it
>"The genre is spent!"
Go to hell
Josiah Williams
My personal ranking of the Soulsborne games I've played
>God tier
The Dark Souls trilogy, Nioh, Bloodborne
>Good tier
Code Vein, The Surge,
>Decent tier
Remnant from the Ashes
>Boring tier
Lords of the Fallen
I'm waiting eagerly for Nioh 2 to come to PC (I own a PS4 but I prefer to play games on PC) and I'm finishing the other games I'm playing right now before I tackle The Surge 2. My PC isn't robust enough to emulate Demon's Souls but I plan to upgrade it next year.
Honestly I'm extremely happy this genre is a thing because it mixes three of my favorite things in the world: combat involving weapons, RPG mechanics and constant fighting. So, I can't get enough of it; and best of all, most developers get it right.
Nathan James
>most developers get it right