Laptop 2080 and 970 EVO Plus is better than PS5

How's laptop 2080(mobile) compare to desktop 2080?

Has anyone told you outside Zig Forums that you are dumb? I'm asking seriously

Not based and retardpilled

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>dude the SSD reads the graphics betterz that means it can make betterz graphix!

Ram just gives fast access to assets in the game. What they are saying is that they can get fast access from the ssd so theres no need to load it into ram. Meaning your world could be much larger with no loading.

Nope, majority run at dynamic res

at least link the reddit post you stupid nigger

It's between desktop 2070 and 2070 super.

Reminder!
>UE4 tech demo 1440p at 30fps with no game logic, no ai or interactable objects
>15 fps at 1080p with ray tracing
>Meanwhile minecraft demo was PATH traced with 30fps
>Still had hidden loading screen
>Backwards compatible ps4 games using "pro legacy mode" will STILL be 1440p
>No 4k resolution bump
>Confirmed by cerny himself
>30fps capped games to stay at 30fps
>Meaning Bloodborne will still run like shit
>Naughtydog not bothering with 60fps ever again, expect the same with their other exclusives
>Which will now come to pc, you'll see their Playstation Studios logo so it's ok!
>Ps now will still be 720p
>100 ps4 games at launch, will little to no difference in quality
>Still no console to show, only showed controller because they were scared it would get leaked like their pisspan by a janitor
>Devs admitted to Digital Foundry you couldn't run both gpu and cpu at max clock, and trying to do so was a pain in the ass

The proof is in the pudding, folks. 1440p machine.

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>he goes to reddit

Dude, stop it. SSDs will NEVER EVER EVER be faster than RAM. And RAM is crucial to feeding the CPU instructions. RAM will always be used to load things because computers (consoles are computers don't even argue against this) work like that.

I never said it would be faster than ram. Dont get so salty you cant read. Its about being fast enough for asset loading in real time.

RAM is literally thousands of times faster than any storage device, you retard. PS5 is using a PCIE 4.0 drive, which is nowhere near the speeds of RAM.

>the tech demo was another scam
shocker

>What they are saying is that they can get fast access from the ssd so theres no need to load it into ram
this is categorically false

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Another readlet

Every open world game ever made has real-time asset loading

Don't you dare tell me I didn't read when you didn't read. Computers DO NOT work like that. Get it through your thick skull. No matter how much bullshit Sony and Microsoft attempt to pull by combining RAM pools to make up for the lack of RAM dedicated to the CPU and GPU it will never change the fact that a CPU operates in a certain way.
digitaltrends.com/computing/what-is-a-cpu/
>Fetch, decode, and execute.
>A CPU fetches the instruction from RAM, decodes what the instruction actually is, and then executes the instruction using relevant parts of the CPU.
>In modern systems, the CPU doesn’t do everything, but it still must feed to specialized hardware the numbers they need to function. It needs to tell the graphics card to show an explosion because you clicked on a fuel barrel (whoops), or tell your hard drive to transfer an Office document to the system’s RAM for quicker access.

Stop being a readlet. Its tedious to talk to you. Right now we load into ram, they are trying to bypass loading into ram. Its not that hard to understand what they are saying. The filesize of the assets in game can increase dramatically if this is accomplished.

>console can maintain peak performance for 5+ hours without break

>laptop will thermal throttle within 30 minutes

YOU ARE A FUCKIBG IDIOT. FUCK YOU, AND FUCK LAPTOPS TOO. ACTUAL CONSOLE TARDS ARE BETTER THAN YOU WILL EVER BE; THEY WEREN'T DUMB ENOUGH TO SPEND 2 THOUSAND DOLLARS ON A PALM-COOKER, YOU STUPID FUCKING SHITS, DO NOT EQUATE YOURSELVES WITH THE REST OF US UNTIL YOU HAVE THE IQ AND EXPERIENCE TO JUSTIFY YOURSELF BEYOND A SINGLE GODDAMN IGNORANT CLAIM. FUCK YOURSELVES.

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You've been btfo. It's time to stop.

Fast enough you idiot. Goddamn you people are stupid. It doesn't need to be as fast as ram. Just fast enough for 60fps. Ram speed is on a whole different level. Everyone gets this. But your too stupid to get that that speed is not completely necessary.

If the sonyfag continues just keep pointing him towards my post

any bottlenecks were removed by Mark Cerny this isnt a PC keep crying for the most powerful SSD

Just to shit on him some more

>See quora.com/Is-the-speed-of-SSD-and-RAM-the-same:

Flash Memory is considerably slower than DRAM, and the way they are used by operating systems is very different.

A typical DRAM has a transfer rate of approximately 2-20GB/s, whereas typical SSDs have a transfer rate of 50MB-200MB/s. So it's one to two orders of magnitude slower.

Furthermore, the way it's used is very different. DRAM is far more flexible and is truly random access -- any word, any time. By comparison, flash writes have to erase an entire block at a time before writing to it; and there are other problems that need to be dealt with such as wear leveling and bad blocks.

>t.

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Fucking things can be louder than the PS4 itself

Feel free to repost this information in every sonyfag thread where they try to now tout
>THE POWER OF THE SSD!
digitaltrends.com/computing/what-is-a-cpu/
superuser.com/questions/1173675/how-much-faster-is-memory-ram-compared-to-ssd-for-random-access

>epic china
sip*
sure trusting chinkos, cope

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The point is that current "good" hardware already keeps up with the allegedly fantastic ps5. Two pc hardware generations in and it'll be hot garbage. Again.

Showing a complete lack of ability to read is not btfo somebody.
Im sorry for saying you didnt read. You strawmanned my argument. Which is the Zig Forums staple. I should have assumed that was your go to argument style.
Do not post wiki about cpus. Just shows youve never wrote a program before. Or at least never looked at assembly code. The games code tells it where to get information on assets. The cpu can access the storage. The ram just gives it the address. What we do now is get the cpu to take all the info we need and put it into the ram because accessing addresses is faster this way. However if your storage is fast enough you can just have the cpu access the storage as needed.

>No leonidas, you are wrong! You are wrong! C-c-cope!!!

What assembly language can you read? PPC is my best.

>Just fast enough for 60fps.
Dude, you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. SSDs have nothing to do with how much FPS you get. Why do consolefags try to talk about shit they have no idea about?

Why the fuck do you spout this retarded shit when you have no fucking idea what you're talking about? The storage hierarchy is a hierarchy you dumbass. The point of bottom tier shit storage like an SSD or an HDD is to fill RAM, it doesn't do anything else, things have to be loaded into memory before anything can happen. You can't go directly from an SSD to a CPU register you fucking moron, it's not electrically possible.

Jesus Christ. Tech illiterate Snoyfags manage to piss me off every generation.

>Just shows you've never wrote a program anymore
here's a strawman for you, with that English I doubt you've used a computer beyond shitposting on Zig Forums.
>However if your storage is fast enough
See
Feel free to prove everything in that post and link wrong.

>some chinese epic engineer
sure thing

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>hurr u no read
You are a fucking retard, you have absolutely no idea what RAM is or what it is used for.

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dram is much more expensive, ue5 is using a lot of triangles have fun compressing everything

There's nothing to prove wrong ram is faster than any ssd. You are so much of a brainlet you can't see that I never contradicted that.

>However if your storage is fast enough you can just have the cpu access the storage as needed.
No, you can't. Even if you managed it in some retarded dumbshit way, it'd still be horribly slow and clog everything. HDDs aren't hooked up to the CPU the way RAM is. You'd have to pass it through the bridges and kill all performance in the meantime this way.