Why does neo-Zig Forums hate dungeon crawlers?

post good blobbers and drpgs

>pic related
so far the combat's stupid simple in this but i do like the feature of multi-party dungeon crawling (eg. a dungeon has 3 towers, so you need to send 3 parties in at once; progressing through one tower opens up higher levels in the others)

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I just want Grimrock 3 already. Fuck druidstone or whatever that fire emblem spin off shit was.

Grimrock showed me a whole new genre that I loved, then just went quiet after two perfect games.

>using real people for in game graphics
god that is so fucking stupid and I'm glad that trend was forced into extinction

Go play Dungeon Master user

We went back to that with face scans, looks just as uncanny as it did back then.

The ones i like are stuck on handheld

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>using real people for in game graphics
god this is so fucking great

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What a tastelet

which king's field is worth playing first?

>Why does neo-Zig Forums hate dungeon crawlers?
Because I got filtered by Lands of Lore 2 and since then I'm only playing through nip dungeon crawlers.

But user, those character portraits are 10/10

The duality of men

King's Field II USA (which is really KF3, but the first one was never released in the west) on PS1 and 4 on PS2, and Shadow Tower 2 on PS2.

Amazing how KF1 and KF3 look so different, KF1 looks so primitive, early PS1 when devs had no idea how to do 3D, KF3 is late gen and look almost identical to the PS2 KF4. Trying to get into KF1/2 and ST1 is hard because they're genuinely so dated.

Be warned combat in KF is slow as shit like you're moving underwater. ST seems to be faster.

the pc version of kf1

I fucking wish dungeon crawling wouldn't be so fucking dead, everything now has to be a fast fast fast go go go roguelite, or a walking sim set piece observation game like Skyrim.

We dont?

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I wonder if there will ever be another etrian odyssey game now that there is no longer an active 2 screen console.

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>Arx Fatalis
Technically this is Ultima Underworld 3. Very cool sound design, pretty cryptic in times and quite interesting story. Play it with latest dev build of Arx Libertatis.
>Might and Magic
Classic blobbers. 6-8 are must play (with Greyface patches). 9 is 3D miscarriage the game. 10 on its own is ok but in comparison with other games in a series is embarrassing. World of Xeen (4+5) are pretty cool as well but retro. First, second and third games are very retro.
>Wizardry
The grandpa of dungeon crawlers. Play any game you want except 4. Start with the first one, 6 or 7. 8 is also pretty cool but in 3D.

So, what's the difference between a dungeon crawler and an ARPG?
Could the Souls series be considered dungeon crawlers? They're basically third-person KF.

>No FOSS mapping software I can use for crawlers that don't have auto-map

There are good custom campaigns for Grimrock. Also Vaporum is pretty good. Not as good, but still. Yeah, I also want Grimrock 3.

ARPGs have real time combat.
Dungeon crawlers can have real time or turn-based combat.
The whole definition of dungeon crawler always been wonky. Some people say that they must have single protagonist and be in real time. Other say that all dungeon crawlers must be turn-based and hexgridded.

I want to BANG that panda

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Those were always terrible, as were real time cutscenes.
Thank god those are gone too.

I am pretty sure that they made that EO NEXT trailer just to send a message for everyone that they still own that franchise.

I play japanese dungeon crawlers only

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There is a fan art already, huh? Good to know.
Maybe I should finish Wizardry 8. I started it like 10 years ago just from shear curiosity but got filtered very hard.

I actually found myself enjoying Bunny Black I and II a lot more than I expected. And not just because I like building myself a rape harem.

I don't, but i'm FED with grid-based crawlans
Give me M&M6-8 or Wiz8 clone or go home

Combat in Bunny Black gets chaotic and messy so fast. You NEED to make PC a healer and a DPS.