>Friend wants to play MMO with me
>Tell him he's to young to appreciate them
>Buys game, Final Fantasy XIV
>Complains they have to do single player before co-op
>Bitches he can't play the story instances in multiplayer
>Constantly saying the combat is boring and too easy, doesn't understand it's supposed to be slow until 80
>Asks me to play with him, it's just three hours of following him around between short dungeon or trial fight
>Refuses to play when we're not online because he got the game to play with us
>Asks to play with us, tell him he can't until he beats the MSQ and hits 80
>He's starting to lose motivation to keep playing past 2.4, and is skipping cutscenes to "catch up to play together" instead of experiencing the storyline
Why can't current generation enjoy the slow burn enjoyment of a great MMORPG. Everything needs to be instant gratification with zero effort on their part. And constant flashy visuals and bright effects to keep their attention.
Friend wants to play MMO with me
>Friend wants to play with you
>Bitch about it on Zig Forums
What a cunt
>The game leveling is super fucking boring.
>The dungeons are good.
>The pvp is awfull.
The sad part is that there is not gonna ever be a mmo that let you do your stuff like the old times.
mmos are literally the most braindead genre and the fact that you think grinding mobs is somehow superior to actually having fun is pathetic
>Bitches he can't play the story instances in multiplayer
This is a legitimate complaint.
I told him he wouldn't like it and he still bought it expecting it to be like a coop game where he could just start off and join the latest raids and activities. He knew full well he'd have to put the work in if he wanted to play with us.
lol
What's wrong with what he said? MMOs are just grind mobs to reach max level then farm for a few months to get a complete set of end game gear.
It's like a full time job, fuck that.
if you care so much about putting effort into games, why not play something actually difficult like a competetive game? won't have to waste your time grinding mobs and you'll actually get to feel some excitement for once in your life
>convince some wowfriends to join xiv with me
>they all finally got to endgame together
>we stopped caring about doing endgame raids to gather and craft instead
Now this is the endgame that Yoshi wanted for us
He isn't wrong. He sounds more like a chad than your tranny dilating ass will ever live to be.
>He doesn't know the excitement of clearing difficult content with your raid team
Because I like MMOs and expecially XIV. I told them they wouldn't be able to enjoy it and they still bought it because they wanted to play a game with us again.
I've seen a lot of good things about this game story wise (didn't they give a fucking Omega an actual storyline and character development) but like fucking hell i will ever touch an MMO. Gameplay videos put me to sleep and dealing with parsers and trannies must be hell on earth.
Obsessed with trannies
Says the tranny
See
You sound like a faggot, dude or dudes just wanted to spend some time with you and you act autistic af.
Yes good point.
>Why can't people enjoy the 'slow burn' that is so great the devs are working on cutting it out
>MMO where you have to do hours of single player filler
Christ
>>Tell him he's to young to appreciate them
Sounds like you're a zoomer that only grew up in the WoW era.
Oh okay
Says the douchebag who can't stop thinking about them 24/7.
They're not removing any quests. Just some of the objectives like placing the bucket, filling the bucket with water, and picking the bucket back up.
Ff14 is barely an MMO. I am fucking dying from these loading screens to just move from room to room.
I just go through the slog that was the patch content from ARR and I'm barely holding on it's so boring. The trials are great fun but the constant loading screens every 3 seconds are horrible.
Says the tranny that plays FFXIV
Ok but damn if FFXIV’s story isn’t a fucking slog to get through until you’re almost at Heavensward
Yeah he just wanted to go back to his home planet. Now he's running around with his chocobo fren.
They are removing quests and they are also condensing some quest objectives, however they mostly focused on then latter.
>why not play something actually difficult like a competetive game
Lmao, you're a bigger faggot than OP. I bet you're referring to fortnite.
>people can stand to play this loading screen simulator
That looks like such a cute ending for a superboss we just BTFO'd repeatedly for no reason.
Rent free.
I've played XIV and cleared some savage trials a couple of times, and while it was fun, the difficulty mostly came from DPS characters messing up and standing in the wrong place. I guess grinding raids with your mans can be fun, but it's ultimately memorizing a few gimmicks and then not falling asleep, it's not at all dynamic
>its gets good after 8 0 E I G H T Y levels TRUST ME
final fantasy fans are so delusional, please don't try to force others to wallow shit just because you like it
>friend just wants to hang out
>game doesn't let you two hang out
>it's his fault for not loving the slow, boring, grindy content until 80
>"Why won't he grind MORE while we're not there?"
You just sound like a shit friend.
>It gets good after 80 levels
But it unironically really does and stands as one of, if not. The best Final Fantasy games released. With some of the most difficult bosses in videogame history.
How do I find a static? I transferred from Crystal to Elemental about half a year ago because my wife (male) is here, but every static I've seen here raids either while I'm sleeping or working. I can't play with my wife (male)'s group either because of that.
Not really interested in transferring back to an NA DC.
Literally the only job that starts fun is samurai. Every other job is missing vital job features until like 65 minimum.
dark knight and ninja are unimaginably boring until literally max level. It's insane.
>With some of the most difficult bosses in videogame history.
Okay lets not get ahead of ourselves here.
I dunno what anons are smoking but mmorpg's were always considered to be a casual genre. raids aren't that hard, it's just annoying to wrangle a team together
Name a single other game where a boss took over 150 hours of attempts to defeat
Where the FUCK are good MMOs? Why has the MMO market stagnated so hard? All the other genres have made huge strides and meanwhile we have games like ESO, FF, BD, Destiny, and OSRS and classic WoW, but those two obviously don't count.
I actually only play fighting games, but fortnite is probably more fun than final fantasy, yeah.
FFXI Absolute Virtue
>most difficult video game bosses I history
You can pug them lol
Most bosses you can literally set up a timer on your fucking phone and know exactly when to use key abilities every single time.
>fighting games
I dont care what a darkie has to say then, fuck off
He's right about everything, retard. FFXIV is shit for a lack of quest sharing. There's no reason to group with anyone aside from bullshit like treasure maps. Old MMOs were multiplayer from the start. FFXIV is a single player game with instances. Fuck you.
MMO's are by nature too high risk/reward for investors.
>150 hours
wasn't the original pre-nerf AV 20-30 hours of FIGHT TIME for a single pull 100%->0%? 150 hours is fucking nothing
Retarded tranny self-insert game with no content and 4 boss fights every 6 to 8 months.
Garbage shit game.
>Joke unkillable enemy
>Developers fix methods community makes to kill their OC superboss
Still a final fantasy MMO boss but okay
But that’s like saying
>bro this show’s amazing
>I dono, I watched the first ten episodes, I find it pretty boring
>well yeah the first 50 episodes are boring as fuck but then it gets great
>can I just skip to when it gets good?
>no man, then you won’t understand what’s going on
You might be right on all of it but no one wants to sit through schlock for hours and possibly days if you can’t play all day to get to the good stuff. If I wanted that, I’d apply that same energy to something worthwhile in real life because the payoff is much better
gottem
>fighting games
You’re cool then.
They need to make a PC only version because these loading screens are unreal. It's barely a world.
Get an SSD you fucknut
>playing XIV
why? It's the worse MMO I've ever seen. It's just a single player jrpg with a wow skin on top of it
I do, but a fucking MMO shouldn't have a loading screen every two fucking feet