Final Fantasy VIII: Whatever Edition

Why was it shit, again? I've never played it, but I love the other PS1 FF games. What makes VIII the black sheep of the series, as some people say?

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>What makes VIII the black sheep of the series, as some people say?
Story is beyond retarded
Writing got butchered in the English translation
Combat is bad for you
Play the card game
They put the shittiest fucking midi versions of the music on the PC version

It does some really weird things, and ends up only being good in terms of its designs and aesthetics.

> The Draw system
> Squalls a dick until the end of the game
> Rinoa is boring
> Not enough of Quistis's big ass. Fine lovely ass

That's about it. If you're after a black sheep try.. 13.

Its the black sheep because its the best FF, but it followed "Babbys first" tier rpg FF7

Fuck it, I was gonna make another thread for it once this one died, but let's dive in anyway.

Why was Final Fantasy XIII: Pink Cloud Edition shit, Zig Forums?

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Listen to that glorious midi music.

>Why was it shit, again?
Long story short, because it was rushed out the door and made from the leftover scraps of 6 and 7. Because of that, none of the design elements gel at all.

The script needed a few more drafts, the completely broken battle system needed fine tuning, the story is awful and the characters are all dribbling retards. Uematsu provides a serviceable score with bland instrumentation and poor direction.


tl;dr - everything

>it's overall campy tone
if this ever gets a gritty remake, Zig Forums will most probably be all over 8's dick
imagine a fully fleshed out gritty version of the moomba uprising

isn't it because of the corridor meme? personally it just doesn't appeal to me

Because Square's modern sensibilities are way off the mark in terms of what they think made the series a success in the first place. The people at the top of the company inherited their jobs because of how seniority works in the Japanese company system. It doesn't matter if you have any talent, you can fall up by just being there long enough.

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Included the universally panned Final Fantasy games.

I'd love to give it to XIII, but at least that's a complete experience. Gotta give it XV.

I think 8 is better than 7 in many ways and 7, while definitely a good game, is way too overrated and any discussion about it is plagued with secondaries who have never actually played the game but want to throw their two cents in because they watched Advent Children one time and listened to an hour long youtube essay on why 7 is oh so great.

Fair.

For anyone wondering:
- Sequels weren't included because if the first game was shit, it's unlikely you played the sequel (hence no X-2, Lightning Returns)
- Didn't include MMOs or mobile games
- Didn't fill the list with games people don't call out as shit (so no games like VI or IX)

you also need to install the specific soundfont it uses for some reason

15 has its problems but it's no way near as bad as 2 or 8. At the very least it's coherent and playable

2 and 8 are far more coherent than 15.

Squall is a dislikable asshole and Rinoa is a bland, spoiled whore. The love story felt really shoehorned and unnatural.

Also I dislike how hard the game sucks Squall's fucking dick. In other games the center of the story is the world, in FF8 it's Squall. Squall here, Squall there, that's how his parents met, that's how he lost his sister, that's his necklace and it even has a name. Fuck this shit. Squall gets treated like the fucking chosen one.
>teacher wants his d
>spoiled rich girl wants his d
>he is made commander
>his dad is the fucking president
>it turns out he is LITERALLY the chosen one
Unless you're some pathetic self-inserter seeing how someone gets his dick sucked so much is really uncomfortable. And let's not forget how Seifer is introduced like that important badass rival but he becomes pretty damn irrelevant, uninteresting and outright pathetic in the game. Fuck this garbage game.

i like both a lot but ff8 disc 4 locking content, slower battle speed and level scaling make it inferior to lovely ff7, both had good combat systems but ff7 was just good whereas ff8 was just CARD-MOD good

15 gets worse the longer you look at it. The more you unpick it, the more you realise you're pulling wolf hair out of faecal matter.

I've only heard the music sound passable on good sound cards, which is pretty awful for this day and age.

Drawing magic is tedious and the battle system itself is broken as fuck. You can say that about FF7 too but 8 is broken by design rather than glitches.

The scaling shit killed it for me. I PLAY JRPGS so I can get away from my problems with the grindan gaem

I'm still upset about Final Fantasy II
>be young'n in early 00's
>hear from friends about the FF series
>ask for pic related for christmas
>play through FF1, love it, basically my introduction to non Pokemon RPGs
>start FF2
>pretty much everything people say about it now is right, the level ups, the story, how cryptic it can be, it's all there
It's also been nearly two decades since I played it, so maybe I was just a silly kid.

And fuck, XV seems to be getting a lot of hate in there, why's it so shit?

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god that's awful. no wonder something felt off my last playthrough of the game

I got stung by this fucker too user.

Playing FF6 and Holy Shit, Kefka moving the Warring Triad and basically Nuking the world was so fucking unexpected cant wait to keep playing more.

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At least I liked the first one enough to play the weird GBA ports of the SNES games.

>What makes VIII the black sheep of the series, as some people say?
There's too many things you miss out on because "small brain" this comes from people that claim to hate gameplay but prefer story.
So how can such big brains get filtered by FF8?
Well it's obvious they brains are 3 times smaller and have less memory bandwith. All they remember is STORY GOOD, GAME BAD. I'M NOT SHIT.

Scaling enemies filters casuals of which most JRPG fans are.

>It's shit
>But I never played it
Maybe because you're a dumbass. VIII is one of the best selling games in the series and easily in the top 5. Only brainlets don't like it

>all story moved to a datalogue undersettings
You don't even explore 1% of that datalogue at all.
>It's literally dialogue the game. 0 story
You think having 1 character have 101 belts is edgy?
>FFXIII manages to be so edgy it's cringe
Also
>Timelines
>Future shit
>uga buga
>Barret x Marlene pandering
>Literally a tutorial until you reach the end of the game
>0 content
This is literally a horrible ass coloring book.

It has a great story but people cry about Muh Sidequests!

Did you forget to read halfway through the OP, user?

>It has a great story
Only in the datalog FFXIII-kun

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It's a great game contrary to what many plebs think, but it does have its fair share of problems. I would assume that an 8 remake would fix them since VII remake fixed the double edged sword shit with the materia system

Dumb mechanics, level scaling and shitty plot even by FF standards

So it's a Destiny case of "really cool worldbuilding but a completely retarded story"?

>And fuck, XV seems to be getting a lot of hate in there, why's it so shit?

Bad gameplay You literally CAN'T DIE
Story gutted for a movie, DLCs, and a true ending novel
Empty open world
Story relevant multiplayer DLC