Half Blood (father is Great One) >Mergo >Orphan of Kos >Brain of Mensis >Arianna Baby >Fake Iosefka (killing her gets you one third of the umbilical cord, maybe because she’s pregnant with a great one like Arianna)
Ascended (Becomes Great One) >Rom the Vacuous Spider >Celestial Emissary >One Reborn (failed Ascension) >Living Failures x4 (failed Ascension)
Oedon is the most interesting one since he's invisible and unkillable yet can impregnate a woman
Dominic Flores
what about the yharnham queen
Brody Flores
she’s Pthumerian
David Gomez
how do you even get to this stuff almost near the end and still don't know who anyone is or why you're even doing shit
William Carter
>people keep saying that this is THE ULTIMATE LOVECRAFT GAME >play it >the first enemies are fucking loud in your face wolfmen and every npc falls for the OOOHHHH IS THAT A FULL MOON AND TENTACLES IM GOING INSAAAAANEEE meme
Blake Martin
And he's got the best Caryll Runes for Bloodtinge players such as myself.
Liam Mitchell
They don't exist Souls games have trash stories and lore that people pretend are good because they're not told to you upfront Lorefags are cancer and Souls made it popular for every fucking RPG series to have them now >oh fiddle dee dee listen to me, the story of this random mook in a Skyrim dungeon I shall impart to thee Fuck off
Tyler Smith
>Mergo's wet nurse What makes you say she's a great one? She's a tool. >half blood That concept makes no sense. Great ones cannot reproduce with other great ones which is why they need human women. The babies are either future great ones or stillbirth failures >Emissary >Living failures They were never supposed to be great ones. They're conduits to talk with the great ones. >Rom Not a great one either. Byrgenwirth used another kind of science revolving around eating eyes or something and their purpose is precisely to oppose great ones so Rom is just a veil between the world and the red moon.
Caleb Foster
They didn't do enough, honestly. Later in the game when the blood moon comes out you start seeing some more whacky shit, but it never really felt all that unsettling or scary to me. I always feel like games don't do enough when it comes to eldritch horror.
Great ones reproduce by impregnating mortal women. Yarnahm was a pthumerian queen (basically a proto-human race) impregnated by a great one to conceive Mergo. It's not clear who the father is, but Odeon is the most plausible hypothesis.
Gabriel Fisher
Ebrietas is the worst boss in the game. Even worse than Rom.
Alexander Nelson
Hemwick, the clock tower, the hypogean gaol and the fishing hamlet were really unsettling, though. And when you pause and consider what some NPCS like the prostitute or the red ribbon girl actually went through, it's difficult not to feel uneasy imo. Personally I think the game hits a good middlepoint between scary tentacle monsters like Amygdala or Ebrietas and unseen lurking horrors like Odeon or the blood.
Imposter Iosefka is certainly not related to the great ones. The cord she has is from Willem and the Burgenwerth scholars. Likely comes from the Orphan of Kos after it was killed by Gerhman, Maria, and/or the hunters with them who sacked the seaside village. We know that the choir is in Byrgenwerth because of Yurie, so it's likely they stole the cord from there, and imposter Iosefka probably ran off with it to Yarnham with or without their knowledge. Iosefka is not pregnant either; she has slugs in her brain (much like the the ones in your image) and can hear them moving around in there because of the insight she has acquired (likely from having the cord).
As for the Brain of Mensis, the living string you get from it outright says it's a "legitimate great one", so I believe it was simply a real Great One the Mensis Scholars found in the Nightmare.
Mergo's Wet Nurse is still a mystery to me. That being said, I believe that the Wet Nurse is part of Mergo. You get the NIGHTMARE SLAIN message from killing it similar to what happens when you kill the Orphan. Mergo is scared and alone in the Nightmare and is being used by Mensis scholars to summon a Great One (Kos). The Wet Nurse is Mergo's way of defending himself. By slaying it, you "kill" Mergo, and free him from the Nightmare so he can rest in peace/ascend.
I don't see any reason to believe the Orphan is anything other than a true Great One.
It made lorefaggotry popular Those faggoty books were there in Elder Scrolls if you wanted to waste time reading them But now everything from fucking Zelda to GTA has faggots trying to ape Souls ecelebs and their stupid fanfic shit
Brayden Russell
>Great ones reproduce by impregnating mortal women Kos is clearly a "female" great one who bears her own child. How the child was conceived is a mystery, but I don't believe there's any rules to how Great One children work. We just know that Oedon looks for female women with the "right" blood to impregnate. In the end, ALL children are lost though.
Juan Green
Is there any evidence she stole it? When you kill her before killing rom she doesn’t have the cord. It seems to me she was trying to become a great one with the knowledge she has from the church and experimenting on victims you give her.
Justin Bailey
What makes you say that Gehrman was affiliated with Byrgenwerth? Hunters came to be to fight the beasts resulting from the use of the blood, which is posterior to Byrgenwerth's discoveries.
Lucas Reyes
Holy shit you people will find any reason to seethe over fromsoft games
Tyler Richardson
Oh you're right, I had forgotten about Kos. But still, the whole point of the great ones is that they need humans to reproduce, no? So logically, she just took a human's dick somehow.
Robert Taylor
Byrgenwerth hired hunters to raid the seaside village. They did so to search for "eyes on the inside" of the people's brains because they were so closely tied to Kos. In the hamlet, we find Maria's weapon which she threw into the well out of disgust for her actions. Maria is Gerhman's apprentice, and Gehrman is the first of the hunters, therefore, it only makes sense that he was there with her when the raiding took place. I think there's a connection between his weapon and the Orphan too, but it's been too long to recall that.
Also, when he dreams, he has this dialogue: >Oh, Laurence... Master Willem... Somebody help me... Unshackle me please, anybody... I've had enough of this dream... The night blocks all sight... Oh, somebody, please... "
So he was around at the same time as Willem who is likely the one that ordered the raid on the hamlet.
Dylan Collins
Hey, first time playing: when should I do the old hunters? After the main game or whenever?
Chase Price
The ascended ones are all KIN not great ones.
Humans cant just become great ones. Youre either born one or in the player's case kill them and take their cords to consume.
Parker Phillips
After the Wet Nurse.
Chase Phillips
Read item descriptions. Pay attention to dialogue.
Joshua Perry
Oh, I must have missed the mention of the scholars hiring hunters. I had always thought they went alone to raid the hamlet. It does add quite a lot to Gehrman and Maria's characters knowing they took part in that.
Blake Perry
Great ones don't necessarily need humans to reproduce, they just lose their children,and therefore yearn for their return and/or a surrogate. Because ascension into higher planes of dreams and whatnot is tied to knowledge/insight, the newborn children cannot follow their parents, and are instead left behind much like Ebrietas who is known to have failed to ascend. The Great Ones leave their physical bodies behind to sort of astral project into other dreams and exist there (while the Pthumerians watch over their "sleeping" bodies). The children are unable to follow, and abandoned as a result.
Nathan Morgan
Gehrman and Maria with a bunch of other hunters raided the fishing hamlet, killed and mutilated the people (who were then further experimented on by the Byrgenwerth students) and finally ripped the cord from the Orphan while he was still in Kos.
This is literally the reason the hunters curse exists.
David Harris
After you defeat Vicar Amelia, got some caryll runes and have your weapons at least at +6.
Charles Harris
Theres a reason why Byrgenwerth went to great lengths to conceal the village.
Caleb Hughes
You won't understand much if you haven't played the original. So, do it at the last possible opportunity i.e., just before the last boss, when the hunter's dream is on fire.
Daniel Taylor
Wasn't it heavily implied that the Church not only defiled the Fishing Hamlet, but also Kos herself? Meaning, church members raped her to see what the offspring would be, or got the FH people to rape what they considered their god.
Evan Baker
There's a lot of cut content behind Iosefka, so the info regarding her is muddled and unfinished. You can simply tell by her model that she wasn't pregnant. Additionally, Arianna gets incredibly sick from bearing Oedon's child before giving birth. Iosefka, on the other hand, feels a sort of pleasure as the slugs writhe in her brain. How exactly she got the cord is up to interpretation, but I'm of the mind that she stole it from the choir, and is attempting to use it to ascend.
Bentley Smith
I've never played and have no intention of playing Bloodborne but the Living Failures theme is better than any other music in the game (including Ludwig's theme).
Owen Wilson
Not the church, it was Byrgenwerth under orders from Willem. Also Kos was probably impregnated by one of the villagers. Thats why the Orphan was there when Gherman and Maria cut open Kos for the Orphan's cord.
Justin Gomez
I think by "defiled", it means they took her corpse and experimented on it. Digging into it, taking it apart, and ultimately pulling out the Orphan, killing it, and taking the cord.
