why did it fail bros
Why did it fail bros
Nathan Watson
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Justin Cook
PlayStation 2
Connor Howard
piracy
Aiden Flores
*ps2's dvd player
David Perry
The Saturn was a failure and the PlayStation was a big success. The Dreamcast did not have very many killer aps that wen above and beyond being arcade-like games.
Not really. Barely anyone cared about DVDs before 2001.
Blake Miller
It didn't succeed enough to help Sega recover from the previous 2 or 3 mistakes, even though by itself it was doing pretty alright.
Colton Brooks
Around the years of dream cast
I was in a Sears. And the worker there was playing a arpg or rpg or crpg on the pc (the work one mind you) so it couldn't have been very demanding.
I would KILL to know what game it was.
I remember playing rush 2024 or whatever it was on their display model and looked behind me. And saw it running and I went to play it when the guy came back and said go somewhere else kid.
I remember it gave me balders gate feels, and also the strange soul caliber 2 dungeon mode. But the inventory screen was quite unfamiliar.
Any ideas?
I remember the floor was dangerous and you had to walk on a set path. There was poison or sinking sand something or other endangering the player.
And it was like Egyptian style/atmosphere...
Dylan Hughes
Record of lodoss war?
youtu.be
Even if it’s not the right game you remember, it’s a must play gem.
Gabriel Ortiz
No but I may have to play that now looks neat
Eli Carter
The real reason it failed had nothing to do with the console itself.
Sega hemorrhaged an insane amount of money after they tried to price match the PS1 with the *way* more expensive to produce Sega Saturn.
Their unpaid debts caught up with them and were forced to kill the hardware division to survive.
David Sullivan
I want to buy everything sega pushes out to support them.
I want more dream cast. And a fourth console.
Henry Johnson
It didnt. Didnt that thing sell like 10 millions in around two years? If so that isnt so bad considering the competition at the time.
Caleb Wright
The past failures caught up with Sega around 2000.
Liam Hughes
Wrong place at the wrong time, unfortunately. It wasn't so much what Sega did wrong, but what Sony did right.
The DC had a lot of hype around its release, but the PS2 had way more. NO console released a year before would have survived that generation. People forgot about the DC after the PS2 was released.
I'd also argue the PS2 establishing the current controller layout/button count that we still have today. It made possibility of ports impossible.
I guess the only failing I could see for the DC would be no DVD support, but the only way Sega would put that in is if some executive pushed hard for its inclusion. It was still too new during the DC's development cycle.
Jason Sullivan
dvd would have made no difference to dreamcast
Jaxon Bailey
sony's better controller was a thing since ps1 not 2
Jeremiah Mitchell
are you referring to the right stick on the dualshock which maybe 3 ps1 games ever used?
Adam White
no
pic is better design than any of the other shit at the time or previously plus didn't break after a week
Juan Barnes
So that it could learn to pick itself back up again
Blake Campbell
saturn being a shit
Evan Rodriguez
you could just copy and burn games.
Kayden Thompson
Sega was anemic after the 32X and Saturn
Shenmue cost a shiton of money for the time
Dreamcast had a price cut before launch
Former Sega buyers felt burned by the Saturn's early death
Piracy didn't help attract developers
PS1 owners waited for PS2
DVD
PS2 was a juggernaut, even Microsoft with its money and Nintendo with its exclusives and legacy were relegated to distant second and thirds. Sega was too weak to withstand that blow.
Adam Jones
>Piracy didn't help attract developers
Pretty much all Dreamcast games began development before the piracy cracks
Andrew Hall
When your consoles are carried by a bad franchise it's destined to fail
Adrian Hall
The issue was more the Satrun being a success. Japan rejected it because it was seen as far too soo for a successor to the pouklar Saturn. Sega of America botched every signel new piece of hardware forcing the to bring more new hardware out.
Thomas Howard
Even SoJ wanted to move on from Saturn. Popular or not, costs were way too high.
Jose Smith
It didn't help maintain support.
Mason Martin
How many times must this be said:
1) Lost consumer and retailer trust thanks to the Saturn and 32X
2) Infighting and utter incompetence
3) Massive debt from: Consoles that sold poorly + failed theme parks + dying arcade market outside of Japan
3) The PS2 being the finishing blow
Literally the only reason they didn't go defunct as a company altogether was from a past investor bailing them out of their debts and being bought out by Sammy afterwards.
The sad thing is that the company deserves to go defunct given how they've learned fuck all 20 years later.
Tyler Flores
They definitely weren't cutting costs when they quickly had to price cut it.
Julian Davis
People always seem to forget that it barely had any decent games.
Both Sonics were shipped in a sorry state. JSR is a mess. Shenmue, while impressive, was a ludicrous slowburn and most people didn't find it much fun to play. SoA, while decent, didn't grip people like FF 7/8/9/10 before or one year after it. Eco the Dolphin defies words with how enchanting but fucked it is.
All of these games had insane style, which is why people adore them now, especially when most never played them. But if you were stuck on DC when other people had a Playstation 1 or 2, you felt cheated.
Lucas Hughes
this, the dreamcast was a home arcade port machine.
Oliver Hernandez
1. PS2 had a DVD player and this didn't.
2. Debt and unpopularity from the Saturn which didn't even get a full run and was seen as an aborted console.
3. Lack of third party game support.
4. Controller too big for tiny Japaneesu handsu (see original Xbox)
5. Didn't have Dat Madden even though Sega Sports was vastly superior.
Landon Edwards
What are some good dreamcast game?
I only know crazy taxi to this day.
William Turner
Why is the logo blue? Mine was orange
Adrian Phillips
I should also mention that Sega USA and Sega Japan didn't get along. Sega USA had good ideas, Sega Japan shat all over them with their conservative and crappy business practices. If Sega USA had been allowed to run the show (and this is still true) the Dreamcast would have done far better.
Nathan Rogers
Europoors had a blue logo.
Benjamin Jackson
they seriously cant afford orange?