Be 30

Fuckoff normies

Isn't that the case for everybody.
They get addicted to dopamine injections from meaningless fake achievements because their brain wants to achieve stuff and they have no real achievements nor the discipline to change their ways

Name three (3) vidyas that are not "based on loops"

It will happen to you.

>isn't that the case for everybody?
no.

Supposed to start a famiy this year, but Corona happened. Oh well

I’m mostly talking about shit like multiplayer FPS and other matchmaking based multiplayers. It’s the same shit every round and the dopamine from a win is no longer higher than a loss is low.
There is just no satisfaction anymore but spending the time with friends, even if I wished we were playing literally anything else.

Have you considered this is all your fault? You could've been a more interesting person, you've not put in the effort.

Are you going to be a reductionist and claim every game is fundamentally looping?

It's not reductionism, it's fact. Name any single game and you'll find loops.

>Isn't that the case for everybody.
Absolutely not.
>They get addicted to dopamine injections from meaningless fake achievements because their brain wants to achieve stuff and they have no real achievements nor the discipline to change their ways
That is literally the normie way tho: If you want to be happy, inject some heroin. That's why you see normies always rant about good players - those who feel happy when they accomplish a personal goal are hated most by the addicts.
The addicts like OP just want the game to tell them how awesome they are, besides them not being awesome. They never got gut in a game, never had a community of their own and never understood the spirit of the game. They chose the easiest challenges in the easiest games, avoid PvP at all cost and stay behind everyone their entire life. Once they turn 30, they realize that by avoiding challenge, they gained nothing, and are now empty.
Trust me when I tell you that the majority of people who play video games actually hate them. They play them because friends play them, because they are popular or because they saw an advertising. Shit like WoW-like MMOs fall into that category, and we all know how fucked up the people are who play this on a regular basis. Nobody actually wants to spent time with these people.

None of this matters it's all useless!

I also would like to know what games aren't based on loops. I'm not being ironic by the way, I really want to know because that's the type of game I want to play.

I've just become more discerning in which games I play. Rarely bother with new releases because most of them seem like boring shit. I've had a ton of fun going through a big backlog of old games I had never gotten around to playing. There's still tons of great stuff out there.

t. True Gamer Master Race (enlightened and euphoric)

Do you at least enjoy something? Cause I'm 28 and I still like games and VNs.

>I’m mostly talking about shit like multiplayer FPS and other matchmaking based multiplayers
You are wrong. FPS is not matchmaking-based. I play various coop-shooters every week and they all lack matchmaking. Whenever I play any other shooter, I only play the ones with dedicated servers.
Matchmaking is a cancer forcing you to play with and against random people. This is a reason why you are burned out. The funny thing is, it's your own fault for believing in a flawed system.

exactly so just do whatever seems interesting to you. if youre bored of videogames maybe start drawing or read a book whatever makes you feel the least miserable

>Can't play longer than 1 hour at a time because it's just boring and a waste of time
What do you want games to be?
What function do you want them to have?
What role in your life do you want them to fulfill?

It seems you only do those things out of some obligation and there's no need to. If you don't like to do something and there's no benefit to yourself or others for doing it then stop doing it.

You don't suddenly become less of a person if you remove an aspect of what you used to be that no long resonates with you. There's nothing stopping you from going back to Zig Forums and playing games if you WANT to do those things in the future. So explore other things. See other people. Hell, we'd rather you do that than stay here and talk about things you have no interest in.

Take a couple of deep breaths, Battler. You and your cousins all wanting to fuck your transgender uncle is a problem for another day.

>be over 16
>play games designed for teenagers
>"WOW WHY ISNT THIS APPEALING TO ME? ITS ALL POINTLESS VIDEOGAMES SUCK IVE GROWN OUT OF THEM WOE IS ME"
Maybe your brain has finally caught up to the rest of your body and bing bing wahoo isn't stimulating any longer. Natural progression as you grow older is to move away from bing bing wahoo and into management, strategy, grandstrat, simulators, etc. Some people do this sooner or even start there while the more smoothbrain either take longer or never get there.

It just shows your IQ isn't in the 90s, why the fuck would you be stimulated by games made for teenagers or children?

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There is nothing enlightened or euphoric about not playing shit and never having a reason to complain.

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There are none

Every game involves a repetition of some kind. A battle in an RPG. Going through Mario levels. Taking turns in chess. Going from firefight to firefight in an FPS. Even walking simulators have a "walk to the next plot scene, repeat" structure.

Zig Forums gaymers tend to think that gameplay loops only apply to grindy shit, gacha and other kinds of low-effort dopamine delivery systems, but that's not true. Games are built from loops.

the sooner people realize gaming isn't a hobby the sooner they can take steps to become happy

This is the greatest truth I ever read on Zig Forums.

Out of curiosity, what do you play?

What does that even mean?

>It just shows your IQ isn't in the 90s, why the fuck would you be stimulated by games made for teenagers or children?
Do you believe that a Carmack und Romero were so smart, they understood children and teens on a deeper level, which in turn made Doom so popular?

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Recommend some coop shooters?

Except that i'm still enjoying older games.
checkmate, idiot.
Modern games are just rubbish.
There's some good one out there, but it's like digging through shit after shit just to find that small diamond hidden in it.

It's not the video games. You have depression.
See a psychologist.

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old man here
i play sandbox games that provide a unique experience each session, and have the excitement of random chance created by human players
Rust
EVE Online
Ark
Conan Exiles

what's up with this btw?
>something wrong?
>psychologist
>pop some pills
>you're a one of us happy few now.
Can't a man even be free enough to be depressed now??
We need to fake happiness to get in line with the others?

For me, the biggest barrier is the beginning of a game, the first 30% of it. It's a massive chore having to learn a new game from scratch, get used to controls and gameplay, adjust settings to something comfortable, be overwhelming with the amount of content to trudge through, getting BTFO by trivial shit simply because of inexperience, trying to understand what's going on the plot, and whether I'll enjoy it or get filtered. This barrier can take weeks to be bypassed, since I can only stand short bursts at a time.
But if I do make it through, once I get used to the gameplay, immersed on the plot and the game's mechanics become second nature, then something in me clicks with it and the rest is smooth sailing, then I can play for many consecutive hours and finish the remaining 70% on less than a week.

>they understood children and teens on a deeper level
that's a really polite way of calling them manchildren and yes i do believe they were manchildren

dont pop the pills, dont mess with your head, those drugs will turn you into someone youre not, better to be you and unhappy, than some drugged-up automaton

currently I'm playing through Demon's Souls my first time
I will recommend you one, because I know the devs and I want them to become rich: Deep Rock Galactic. Trust me when I tell you the amount of polish feels like an early Blizzard title. There is no corner, no sound and no music track that wasn't carefully designed and refined until they were happy with it.

Isn’t there a distinction though between peeking around the same corner in a shooter for the 1000th time and experiencing a specific point-A-to-B in a walking simulator?
Sure, you are using the tools that have been provided by the game to accomplish both, but one is much more within a loop than the other.

Psychologists cannot prescribe you medication. You're thinking of psychiatrists.

>EVE Online
give me the redpill
can i play this without spending $10,000

Sounds like despresso to me

Wtf are you on about, most people go to see therapist out of their own volition because they feel miserable every day and want to feel better. Also, psychologist won't give you medication, psychiatrist can

Walking sims and visual novels. With no actual gameplay, the "game" instead keeps you interested by constantly dumping new content on you.

Ah, so you believe that literal manchildren are smart enough to influence the entire video game market to a degree that everyone, even super serious adult developers, start copying them?
Interesting train of thought, I give you that.

I, on the other hand, as I get older can only get excitement from games that give you constant excitement because paying attention to long cutscenes with boring stories or doing mundane tasks for pointless rewards just makes me want to stop playing. Sadly the vast majority of games fall in this category. Even Mario has cutscenes now.

When you are done suffering, you are welcome to stop.

how do I unsubscribe

depends if youre one of those brainlets who cares about "catching-up" to players who already have a 16 year head start on you
i started playing a couple of years ago and dunk on the old timers all the live-long day, i dont even pay a subscription, i earn enough money in-game to pay for premium

what's up with this btw?
>don't wash for months
>shower
>pop some shampoo
>you're a one of us clean few now
Can't a man even be free enough to be filthy now??
We need to fake cleanliness to get in line with the others?

Psychologists can't prescribe pills. That's a psychiatrist.
And maybe you need drugs, maybe you don't; some people definitely do though. Would you begrudge a schizophrenic or person with narcolepsy for not taking the pills they need to function? Of course you would, because they have brain problems and are a potential danger to themselves or others- you can't always "positive mindset" your way out of a neurochemical imbalance. Point is, if you can't enjoy things you used to that's a major sign of depression and you need to get a professional assessment.

more like using perfume instead of showering.

EVE online can be effectively played for free if you make enough money (with is possible solely though solo mission grinding), but the real fun here lies in flying a small ship like an interceptor in a corp and cruise around with them, doing sector sweeps, attacking farmers, going on security patrol, etc, you name it.
But this is engame level - you only do this if you have no life left. You will not recover from an EVE addiction.

It doesn't help that many games these days are very shallow padded consoomer material. You would be suprised how many games are artificially bigger just because of rng.

And you know there's gonna be a sequel soon anyway.

>Conan Exiles
Is it that game with the nude stuff?

That's true, there is certainly a difference in player experience between the two, but they are both fundamentally loops. Calling it a loop is not a evaluation of the experience or a qualitative criticism, and it's not saying all loops are the same. It's just noticing that games are built out of repeating elements.

Good games know the kind of experience they're going for and make it work for their audience. So a good FPS makes the "point gun, shoot guy" loop enjoyable, and a good walking sim makes the "walk to a spot, listen to the story" loop enjoyable.

You're thinking of hard drugs like alcohol. That's perfume.

yes. they're very smart manchildren but manchildren nonetheless. just read about how they used to behave, total spergs.

Funny, I’ve actually been playing deep rock for a long time. Me and one of my friends have done every EDD since they came out and it’s one of the games whose loop has become unsatisfying lately. I think I just need a long break from it.
It is an awesome game, though.

I'm older than you and still enjoy them, sounds more like you're depressed to me.