Everyone mad about Cyberpunk's showcase being delayed right now

Which is?

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Ah yes the capitalist commie, self hating white living on a safe haven in the richest part of the world. How original.

I'm strongly against socialism but I can actually agree with that point, especially the common opinion of
>they're a private business they can do whatever they want
is fucking retarded and it makes me cringe every time I see someone make that argument

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kek

They're neo noir detective stories. Half the shit in the stream isn't in plenty of cyberpunk stories.

Good shit.

How do you think the corporations got power with government in the first place
>make a system where capital = power
>act surprised when people with the capital seize power
galaxy brain write here

That's not the most important piece of cyberpunk, though. That's how most cyberpunk stories play out, because the setting is gritty and plays well to mystery, but it's not inherent to the genre.

Reminder that Watch_Dogs: Legion is going to be a better cyberpunk game than Cyberpunk 2077

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That is literally the most important piece. If it's not detective neo noir, it's not cyberpunk. Even retarded nip shit like Akira has placeholders for detectives.

>They're neo noir detective stories.
That's only relevant in neo noir detective stories. Cyberpunk is far more than a subset of a few of the stories of cyberpunk. Even as far back as Neuromancer and Count Zero, you had off-the-rails hacker action stories that didn't pang of "neo noir" beyond the farthest reach.

Case was an impromptu detective, I'm not sure why you bring this up. In fact, all of Gibson's stories involve a detective or something like Spook Country.

> Story in cybernetic punk future involving cybernetics and dystopian themes
> Not cyberpunk because nobody is solving a mystery
Bravo. Stay retarded.

Even if workers owned the MoP you would still see the same problems if all else remained the same. Worker coops literally already lobby the government. The only solutions are restrictions on government power or fully automated luxury space communism, which is a pipe dream.

What cyberpunk stories doesn't involve a mystery? Go ahead.

Nice try. I'm going to list things and you're going to respond "not cyberpunk because there's no detective mystery". Not falling into that bullshit.

>Case was an impromptu detective
He was collecting information for Molly, but the entire story had to do with a battle between Armitage and Neuromancer. It was not at all a "detective" story, and it doesn't read like one in the slightest. It's more like an action story with some mystery elements to it, but all of the "fighting" is through technobabble and hacking.

>Spook Country
Spook country is an actual pseudo-noir detective story. The actual cyberpunk-esque Sprawl trilogy are in no way "Neo Noir Detective Stories", and the majority of Cyberpunk stories are only considered "detective" stories by an extremely far reach. There's a lot of characters looking into things, sure. There's a lot of characters trying to get to the bottom of what's going on with the setting as a means of further introspection into the themes of the narrative, sure. But a plethora of cyberpunk stories have nothing to do with being a trench coat and fedora wearing hardboiled detective in the year 2XXX just because you only know of a few. Cyberpunk has a rainbow of messages associated with it, and 2077's messages are mostly centered around 2020's concepts.

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>restrictions on government
The less power the government has, the more power these massive corporate bodies have to fuck people over. In fact it's literally because the government bodies continue to "conveniently" capitulate that these massive corporations have the power they do. Antitrust laws are a fucking meme in 2020. Nobody is trying to stop these monopolies because the government workers who are supposed to stop them are being paid by the ones on top to stay quiet.

No, it's literally the other way around. Corporations use government to increase regulations and create economic conditions which benefit them.

no its both

Sorry, never heard of it, so i doubt it.

Historically and factually inaccurate. Regulatory capture happens because government is given power over the private sector. Corporations cannot give themselves tax funded bailouts and subsidies. Corporations are fucking people over by abusing copyright legislation passed and enforced by the government. Explain that.

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You retards don't have any talents are barely intelligent enough to count as sentient (and the same goes for me)
That is why you will be fucked over and slave away for someone else
It might be daddy government who fucks you
It might be big soulless corporations who fuck you
Or if you go full revolutionary it will be the party members who are more equal than you who fuck you

You're nothing special that's why you will get fucked
Welcome to the real world
Welcome to adulthood

Alright champ, replace the incompetent rich bureaucrats who got to the top by kissing the company ring with the incompetent poor bureaucrats who got to the top by kissing the party ring. I can't wait for Dale the transmission mechanic to get put behind a desk and start allocating resources.

Okay.

Why do these asshats accept so many bribes, anyways?