How come this game is not very loved on Zig Forums...

How come this game is not very loved on Zig Forums? Other popular games like RDR and Witcher are popular but not this game

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Downgrade from IV

There has been no new content since 2013 except shitty moneygrab multiplayer for retards. All the good stuff has already been talked about 7 years ago.

RDR2 is awful, though. Witcher 3, as bad as the combat is, is worlds above RDR's cliche, stilted writing, lack of meaningful content and absolutely atrocious controls.

crowbcat parrot

Lots of propaganda in it.

it's Zig Forumseddit, hating popular things is the norm

not to mention it's full of Nintendies that rail against any game that isn't on their Fisher Price toy

e-celeb dicksucker, IV was the worst GTA game.

yes, that crowbcat video is full of shit.

I mean GTAIV has nice things but overall V is a more complex and a better game.

Story ruined by bouncing between three weak characters
All post-launch development focused on milking the multiplayer for all it's worth with predatory mtx
Vehicle physics and damage completely neutered
Lots of small details introduced in 4 didn't make it into 5

>Free content
>Not paid DLC
>Money grab

You can just admit you are to lazy to hack the game for money user.

It doesn't have a lot of propaganda, but it has some. Pro-illegal immigration and Franklin is San Francisco's idea of what a nigger is, a successful white man painted black.

It's not perfect but a game on that scale never is. I still think it's great and one of the last mega budget games that actually largely delivered. It's always going to be fashionable to hate on something that popular though.

>that actually largely delivered
On what? The game has very little going on. The heists are okay, but they're such a small part of the game.
I genuinely do not know where the budget actually went.

if you cannot see the budget V has you probably know nothing about game dev.

>Other popular games like RDR and Witcher are popular

They're better written and more interesting, GTA isn't bad by any means but it's not impressive in any way, and V leaves a sour taste in peoples mouths since Rockstar only cares about the online shit.

Say what you will about IV but there was far more thought put into the single player even if the map was as small as it was.

V's story was alright. They still have to top IV or SA but it's still a fun ride with good missions along the way.

The problem is the online. GTAO is way too grindy and baits you to buy Shark Cards all the time. Not to mention the fact that Cockstar has only made ONE game since V because they've been spending resources milking V for all it's worth.

Five's story would have been better if they hadn't divided it among three people.

Micheal had a decent story

Trevor ended about how i would expect his story to end no real complaints

Franklin wasn't even that bad. The issue with Franklin was that Lamar is more authentic

I'm not seeing a counter-argument.

I thought you couldn't get worse than IV.

>Say what you will about IV but there was far more thought put into the single player even if the map was as small as it was.

but that's not true, most of the missions in GTAIV are repetitive as shit compared to GTAV missions.

It's good. Hotswapping to different character roles mid-mission is cool. Shooting controls work surprisingly well in tandem with things like driving and freeroaming. Only thing I really hate is how much of downtown is nothing but overlapping highways and overpasses. I know it's "realistic," but shit.

>Not to mention the fact that Cockstar has only made ONE game since V because they've been spending resources milking V for all it's worth.

I rather having a huge game in several years than having the fucking Ubisoft mentality of launching a game every year.

RDR2>>TW3>>>>>>>>GTA5

This is only my opinion, but also a fact.

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Because Zig Forums is contrarian and parrots whatever baits e-celebs do on youtube (same situation with DK64)
GTA V is an actual GTA, IV feels like those linear 3rd person shooters from the 7th gen and that's it.

Your lack of knowledge is counter argument on it's own

YOU FUCKING ZOOMIE PIECES OF SHIT RUINED WHATEVER SHOT WE HAD AT SINGLE PLAYER DLC I SWEAR TO FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

GTAO ruined everything. GTA VI is going to suck ass.

Oh, and the helicopter camera. I don't mind the controls in themselves, but the way the camera keeps autocorrecting, combined with a control scheme that works relative to your direction on-screen, is *infuriating*.

It has no SOUL at all. It's as derivative and safe as it can get. A pure commercial product designed to please the widest audience. There is nothing to hate about it but there is nothing to love either.

since 2015

>Literally "optional black protagonist"
You Americans are so pathetic and fragile.

Zig Forums doesn't like popular games

Bullshit. Michael being abandoned by his family is a stark subversion on the "lol random drug trip whoa dude" scene you'd see in any of the previous games, for one example. Figuring out how to get three autonomous characters to work in one game was way more work than someone would have to do just to meet "the status quo." Side missions essentially taking on whole new game modes outside of merely piloting a unique vehicle. You're only saying this out of confirmation bias that the game had a massive draw like every other GTA game. "Popular bad."