IT WAS ALL DONE BY MYSTERIOUS PERSON "X", I WILL NEVER ASSUME MY FAMILY IS THE CULPRIT AND I WILL NEVER BELIEVE IN YOUR MAGIC ILLUSIONS. YOU CAN'T DENY MY THEORY THAT THERE IS ANOTHER PERSON ON THE ISLAND BECAUSE OF DEVIL'S PROOF AND I DON'T HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT. STOP TALKING TO MEEEEEEEEEEE UWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
IT WAS ALL DONE BY MYSTERIOUS PERSON "X"...
Aiden Young
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Jaxson Stewart
Magic doesn't exist, and I have this masking tape to prove it.
Thomas Johnson
Jack Reed
ERIKA PLEASE NOT THE DUCT TAPE I WAS JUST TRYING TO BE NICE NO I SWEAR IT'S NOT A LOGIC ERROR PLEASE I PROMISE NO DON'T TRAP ME IN THIS LOCKED ROOM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BEATRICE SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEE
Jace Nguyen
Kayden Bailey
Shut up and get back in the room
Joseph Williams
So how did he escape from his logic error room? I know it was some Kanon BS but how would Erika be able to explain that as a trick?
Jeremiah Flores
She needed love to understand. I don't have to explain!!
Caleb Davis
Shanon... we are leaving
Kayden Baker
but what if they ate the bombs lol.... ahah jk...... unless??
Brody Bennett
>falls in love with a 12 year old girl
Julian Reed
Every thread until we reach the golden land
Noah Clark
>Maria says George kills kids
Where did this come from?
Daniel Morgan
I prefer this solution
youtu.be
Zachary Nguyen
>eats food
FAT FUCK
Bentley Walker
Shannon jumps out the window, turns into Kannon and frees Battler. It's stupid, but that's how people explained it to me.
Ayden Williams
When Kyrie brought the letters that Battler wrote to his cousins, (at the time he was away from the family conference) she handed them all to George, he then proceeded to hid the one that was adressed to Shannon.
Elijah Wright
*proceeded to eat
Ryder Rodriguez
DLANOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Bentley Perry
>throws an autistic fit over Knox’s rules
>when the story implicitly doesn’t follow the rules in the first place (see Genji and Knox’s 5th)
Why does no one call her out on this?
Jacob Gray
DIE THE DEATH
Jaxson Fisher
>tfw the epitaph is explained
Mason Cooper
>Taiwan
>Chinaman
Pick one
Blake Phillips
Why is battler such a fucking loser?
Jace Ramirez
Iirc, it was something stupid about kanon swapping with him, and/or something stupid about not putting it past Kinzo. It doesn’t really matter, the only thing of value in Umineko is the music and the infinite shitposting potential.
Lincoln Watson
Battler didn't even remember Yasu, there never was a letter
Blake Cruz
The VN wouldn't be nearly as entertaining if he wasn't fucking retarded.
Ethan Scott
Even if we discount that, there is still no reason to think the story has to follow Knox’s rules.
Michael Parker
Sure there is, user
It's a murder mystery, after all
Benjamin Allen
YOROKOBE SHOUNEN
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Andrew Nelson
Umineko made a really good point about the mystery genre. Mainly that there's no real "gotcha's" left to be had in it if you follow rules like Knox's commandments. There's only so many ways you can make a fair closed room mystery without any supernatural elements or cheap tricks.
Elijah Fisher
So? Knox was just some autist saying mysteries SHOULD follow his rules, writers have no compulsion to actually listen to him, and it’s quite easy to imagine a perfectly solvable mystery that violates his rules.
Gabriel Johnson
That's the point.
Landon Bennett
The "chinamen" rule doesn't mean "no asian people." It was written specifically because Dr. Fu Manchu was a popular villain at the time and everyone stole the idea of having the mysterious foreigner be the bad guy, even when it was really obvious that the mysterious foreigner is always going to be either the culprit or an accomplice. The rule is basically "don't put in an obvious foreign bad guy that everyone and their mother will correctly guess."
Anthony Powell
>there never was a letter
devil's proof, it's impossible to prove that something doesnt exist therefore you cant say that were was never a letter
Asher Cooper
It is also impossible for you to prove there was a letter.
Connor Parker
>mfw the beatoriche and virgillia fight in ep3
Noah Campbell
what was the expression supposed to portray?
Xavier Diaz
Not him, but Knox's rules are a good guideline to follow as a newfag for mystery writing, until you know how to properly break the rules. It's just a set of rules to write a fair mystery, but obviously kind of tight assed. Even at the time a lot of stories violated his rules but weren't considered shitty mysteries.
Dylan Allen
Even if he's drunk, Battler is still the detective. 2nd game is invalid.
Parker Lopez
>it's devils proof, I refuse to explain!
Matthew Evans
For me, it's Rosa...
Samuel Harris
Mysteries need not be closed room.
>>>Zig Forumsattler+wrote+a+letter+to+shannon
Yes, but nothing about a good set of guidelines existing proves that a particular story follows them.
Jordan Wright
He gave up the game even before he started drinking. It's valid.
Jason Hernandez
What's not to like about her? She's great.
Charles Smith
I just finished episode 6 last night. I thought it was weak until battler revealed that it was just a prank but Erika killed everybody anyway then it was kino
Alexander Barnes
Episode 6 ending and the entire second half of Episode 8 is non stop kino.
Jaxon Turner
Quick, before you move onto 7 give us your theory about the red text at the very end means