When did you realize this series was dead to you?
When did you realize this series was dead to you?
Lucas Stewart
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Connor Richardson
Thousand Year Door
Benjamin Bell
SPM then it sprung back to life.
William Anderson
color splash when they doubled down
Cooper Lee
When my dad got drunk and raped me while I was running around Boggly Woods
Aiden Stewart
This.
Ryan Jenkins
I cannot comprehend how upon the reveal, there was a huge slew of people who acted like it was the second coming of Jesus. This is just more of the same garbage we've been getting. Even everyone's favorite blue autist thought it was underwhelming: youtube.com
Mason Adams
Super Paper Mario.
If I wanted a shallow sidescroller with dumb 'combat' I'd play a NSMB entry.
David Gonzalez
>Haha, PAPER!
>GET IT? PAPER!
>LMAO
Why
Noah Reed
Fuck the shitposting, let's be real for a moment.
For me, the series died with Origami King. People can debate on SPM all they want but at the end of the day all of us know that it was still written and felt like the first two games. It was the worst of the original three and didn't have turned based battles, but it's evident that the original director still worked on it.
Sticker Star was horrible. Bland, generic NSMB world, broken combat. Color Splash was even worse in some ways and all people can do to defend that piece of shit is by going "THE ART LOOKS VERY GOOD" or "THE WRITING IS FUNNY" when the arts and craft shit is far from universally appealing and the game being funny is debatable at best.
"NO SEE THEY HAD THIS TRAIN LEVEL AND THIS HAUNTED HOUSE LEVEL SEE COLOR SPLASH IS TOTALLY COMPARABLE TO THE ORIGINAL GAMES"
Fuck off
I don't actually think Origami King is going to be a bad game. It's going to be Color Splash but less shit with 30% more original and interesting content. What I loved about the first three games isn't here, though. This is something else. Call me when Miyamoto retires and Tanabe dies choking on Miyamoto's cock and they bring in a director for this series that actually knows what people liked about the first few games.
Wyatt Flores
>Paper Mariofags
John Peterson
guys... I think this game is paper.
Dylan Sullivan
Based. I loved PM but you guys need to get over it
Brandon Davis
I am silly
Christopher Williams
>You're not allowed to lament a series that used to be good being constantly fucked up because of incompetence/ignorance
Nicholas Jones
You autists weren't able to post that screenshot from SPM anymore and one of you were mad enough to make a "THIS IS YOU" comic with less subtly than a leftist meme. You can post that as much as you want and we're going to continue saying the Sticker Star series is shit.
Isaiah Gonzalez
>a beta more than two years from release is the same as a finished game releasing in less than two months
Yikes.
Matthew Nguyen
this looks so stupid hahaha
Andrew Hall
Yes, stop being melodramatic
Jeremiah Clark
>I am silly!
Carter Ortiz
i can accept that they're moving in a different direction but holy shit the stickerstar formula is just aggressively terrible. like do something else with the series at this point. do a radical overhaul again, make it a different genre like they did with super. anything but this trash a third game in a row
David Davis
That requires effort, sugar coating the shit is much easier and it will get the sales they want too.
Luke Flores
>The series died when they decided to fix the gameplay and implement elements from the original
Eat shit
Matthew Morris
>that cool king monty mole got scrapped
man how the fuck is nearly all the scrapped concepts for stickerstar onwards so much better
they clearly still fucking care, somewhere deep inside the company, but someone is actively telling them to go with the most shitty designs drafted up
its like all the fallout 4 concept art, the synths were supposed to have crazy fucking flesh-eating disease guns coming out of their arms but we get toilet armor and reskinned laser guns instead. why the fuck can't massive companies put two shits worth of effort into the games anymore why does it have to be the laziest option every fucking time
William Kelly
Cooper Fisher
DUDE
Caleb Fisher
>Misrepresenting the criticism this fucking hard
You shitposters aren't very clever.
Dylan Bennett
Yes user, the plot is about folding yourself into a monstrocity, they would have to say that word.
The difference is having an actual plot instead of not having one and thinking jokes without context work
Justin Foster
Tpbp.
Imagine getting all the criticism from Sticker Star and then learning nothing from it and insisting on making the same mistakes yet again. Then receiving the same along with complaints that you don’t, and then proceeding to triple down with the Traditional Mario Content Only bullshit in an era where Super Mario Odyssey and Luigi’s Mansion 3 already proved that it’s OK to try different things with the series.
Caleb Morgan
When will Zig Forums grow up and realize they only hate the Paper theme because SS and CS had no actual story
William Harris
People don't perceive reality as it is, just as they expect it to be. All the rumours and leaks pegged the next PM as a return to form, so that's what people anticipated, and that's what they perceived in the game trailer. The business of marketing is just conditioning people's expectations to perceive quality or value or "good" in a product. That's why all these shit games with big marketing campaigns always get 10/10s.
Cooper Brown
>and then proceeding to triple down with the Traditional Mario Content
What is up with people's boogeyman of seeing a normal mario character, the mario character's are vast you know, the problem is not knowjng the mario world goes farther than 3 and World
Josiah Brooks
the paper theme is just lazy, instead of creating a world thats complimented by the flatness of everything they just take the easy route and make the whole game paper
its like going from the weird crayon visuals of the first yoshi games to the fucking yarn shit with no style to it, yeah visually speaking it looks crisp and realistic- but its fucking cardboard. i don't want to stare at colored cardboard the whole game i want some abstract visuals instead
Colton Jenkins
Because retards like you just want TTYD with a new skin instead of an actual new game with a new theme
John Sanders
Ryan Jones
But every game had a new theme.
>muh origami gimmick with new super mario characters
Nathaniel Mitchell
>an actual new game with a new theme
i hope thats not what you think The Origami King is.
Colton Davis
>It's going to be Color Splash but less shit with 30% more original and interesting content.
Objectively wrong
The entire foundation of SS and CS was it's shitty resource system and having the entire game not only based around them, but also having overworld puzzles being entirely based on "WHOA, WHAT REAL WORLD ITEM SHOULD BE PUT HERE"
Regardless of what happens to the Ring System, the fact that there isn't consumables or "Things" is not even CLOSE to Color Splash.
It's it's own separate game at this point, similar to SPM
And it's going to be fine, you had 2 fantastic games already, let the new team make an actual product we can call part of the Paper Mario series, Writing is just as important as character design, stop letting it be a thorn in your ass.
Justin Stewart
>there might be dialogue
>there might be a companion!
>the game looks that other new game!
>implying the story isn't just Bowser dunnit because Miyamoto is an actual retard
holy crackers get aboard the hype train
Tyler Adams
>new game with a new theme
>the world is paper
>there's a bad guy
>Mario meets a floating gimmick with eyes
>Mario does things to the background
Dominic Murphy
That's not true at all, lots of people who dislike the nu Paper Mario games still consider Super to be part of a trilogy along with the previous two despite it playing nothing like them. That's because it still felt like a PAPER MARIO game. It existed within the Paper Mario universe, featured and/or had cameos of Paper Mario characters, and understood what Paper Mario was. Ever since Sticker Star completely wiped everything, these games have become less "Paper Mario", and more "Mario in a paper world", with the only connection to the previous games besides some EXTREMELY minuscule references being the Paper Mario brand and aesthetic (And not even, considering every character outside of the main cast of Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser and the Toads has been redesigned to fit modern mainline Mario standards)
Isaiah James
>Writing is just as important as character design
so we're just ignoring gameplay for paper mario now huh
that's kind of sad
Sebastian Rogers
In the case of Zig Forums it's:
>Game franchise has a passionate fanbase
>Franchise gets a new game
>Either it sucks or changes something that's perceived by the fanbase as unreasonable
>Shitposters disingenuously take the opposite side
>Fanbase lashes out with frustration or with reaonable arguments and criticisms
>Shitposters use this as evidence of the fanbase being autistic
WASH RINSE REPEAT!
Henry Nguyen
now this is innovative!
Jason Lee
How many plots can they write where the core conflict revolves around the fact that they're made of paper? What comes after this one, Paper Mario Cuts?
Hunter Green
SPM was the beginning of the end.
I'm just glad I never tainted my memories by playing SS or CS.
David Anderson
I don't mind the usual Mario characters, but not even the main series sticks to the same exact enemies and characters. It's easy to see why people complain about it. We already have 3 RPG games that reuse a lot of classic characters already.
Juan Bell
>Regardless of what happens to the Ring System, the fact that there isn't consumables or "Things" is not even CLOSE to Color Splash.
thats false, theres several shots of a layered item system with the regualr-sparkly boots. at best its a shitty item durability system but thats practically the stickers with a more contrived way to use them, using a card once versus using it three times then having to buy another is just as grating
Justin Thomas
stop joking around
Benjamin Robinson
I'd MUCH prefer a "PM64 with a new skin" over a TTYD one.