Whom was right?

8/2*(2+2)
8/2*(4)
8/8
1

It's 16. You go left to right when the parentheses are dumb like this. Modern math doesn't pull this bullshit.

I'm a brainlet so thanks for the explanation.

whoever wins, we lose.

the MD and AS are done together, you just do those from left to right
so 8 / 2 * 4 becomes 4 * 4 which is 16

8:2x(2+2)
8:2x4
4x4
16
this is basic math
how the fuck do you get 1?

Fuck that's true.

do people actually not understand order of operations or is it just shitposting? the posting around this stuff is always Poe's Law-tier

Have you tried turning the chess board around?

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A more interesting and much harder question is why do we use PEMDAS at all? Why that order specifically?

do americans really...

The amount of retards in Zig Forums need another containment board

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>american education
multiplication does not have priority over division

It's 1. You have to multiply into parenthesis first, Solving parenthesis is always the top priority in any mathematical equation.

PEMDAS is stupid because it implies that Multiplication and Addition carry higher weight than Division and Subtraction, respectively. Which they don't. Which you would know if you fucking paid attention when your teacher taught you PEMDAS.

this is the only post that matters

8:2(2+2)
8:2*4
8:8
1

>there are people who don't think its 1

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Battler, we are playing chinese checkers.

there is a way to write it without 2 sets of parentheses though
pic related

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If you post one thing, right or wrong, another retard will come in and try to debunk you
A sad existence

The division symbol used to mean divide everything on the left by everything on the right

This is no longer the case

So you resolve 2+2 first, making this 8 divided by 2 multiplied by 4

solve left to right

8/2=4
4*4=16

If you're some ancient fossil, you can argue its 1, but you're wrong with any modern standard

Why are you dividing first?

Its 16. Multiply and divide are the same tier so it goes left to right.
2(4) == 2 * 4
8 ÷ 2 × 4 is calculated left to right
4 × 4 = 16

Everyone who says 1 is a retard and never learned math

4 (4), so either 16 or 1.

Hey don't lump me in with that idiot. They teach you that shit properly over here. Or rather they did, I guess. I learned this shit like 2 decades ago.

The division sign is ambiguous. PEMDAS and PE(MD)(AS) give different answers. Both 16 and 1 are fair interpretations.
It's like asking someone if a cup at half capacity is either half full or half empty.

>multiplying when there’s a division before it and no parentheses to give priority
ok mutt

symbolab.com/solver/step-by-step/8\div2\left(2+2\right)

the confusion comes on whether you decide to do multiplication or division first, the brackets are basically irrelevant in this

>using inaccurate computing tools
I bet you do your math on a ti-84 as well, faggot

Depends if it's 8 over 2 or 8 over 2(2+2)

Fuck you

>trusting horoscope bitches like Laura

Never met a girl that was into horoscope that wasn't insufferable as fuck.

The parenthesis' are binding. You can't separate the 2 from it. Why do people have so much trouble with this?

It's non defined, answer is anything you want.

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but that's wrong

so everyone is on the same page when someone writes an equation

America is still a hyperpower which is why we use American arithmetic. It's like imperial and metric.

Yes it does, nigger.

>math degrees
>will just calculate with unclearly defined operators
sure

Division and Mulitplication carry the same weight, so it's resolved in an order of left to right.

Why would you multiply first?

I’m jumping the burger gun because I’m fairly sure anglos are the only ones who use acronyms to teach order of operations and the M coming before D in the acronym is the cause of all this

Simps please leave

purplemath.com/modules/orderops.htm

PEMDAS

is math real shit or just made up equations we're supposed to memorize for some reason?

because pemdas is tiers
parenthesis + exponents, whichever comes first
multiplication + division, whichever comes first
addition + subtraction, whichever comes first

The notation is fucked and both 16 and 1 are potential answers, because it could be (8/2)(2*2) or 8/2(2*2).

this one here

You only do them left to right if there is no exponent or parenthesis and they are either addition or multiplication because of the communities property

>maths ages
Retard

Any actual mathematician would give give both answers until the fuckwit who posed the question defines it properly. You have ambiguity like that in industry and people die

8/2(2+2)
8/2*4
4*4
16
Brackets, then left to right. multiply and division have same priority.

It's who or whose (as in 'whose [answer] was right?'). Not only are you too fucking retarded to understand that that's shitty notation and the question is irrelevant, you also think that you are so smart and know so much grammar, but you don't know this basic 9th grade shit. Seriously fuck right off.

>PEMDAS is stupid
well you said it yourself, as long as your brain capacity is at least that of an elementary school student, remembering that multiplication and division and addition and subtraction are the same thing should be no problem

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>Symbol ment something else a long time ago
No shit

>needing parentheses to define priority
>not understanding PEMDAS

do you see (8/2)?
stop inserting shit that ain't there.

: =/= fraction

Ok, but why not SADMEP? Its harder to explain than you think

I think it’s just so we don’t have different orders confusing everyone just keeps it uniform ig

aren't they both women? just assuming from their profile pics

Stick it in the Google search bar and Wolfram and see what happens

it's either 1 or 0, because everyone in maths is autistic and makes problems to have neat answers

easy

Use an actual programming thanks

who decides whether you solve left or right with MD and AS?

It means nothing right now, there is no definition to it. Its non-defined.

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Because you clear the parentheses first usually lads. Remove them entirely where possible and move on.

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maybe write it in a correct format and you'll get an actual fucking answer
in that format the answer is BOTH 16 AND 1

Literally just type the equation into google.
BIDMAS

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what if I were to write it as :

8
_______ =

2(2+2)

It's why I defined the problem myself, this is one of those retarded facebook math problems that are intentionally ambigious so that retards argue over it

in 4 years she'll be taking bbc

other answer than 1
do americans really?

when the order isn't specified it's left to right. Or unless it's meant to be 8/(2(2+2)), of which it would be 1, because there is a difference.

Its 1
Retard

Holy fuck you're retarded.

they're women, what did you expect?

It's 1. Either this board is underage as hell are fucking retarded as hell.

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>needing parentheses to define priority
>not understanding parenthesesEMDAS
20iq post

This is a fundamental misunderstanding of PEMDAS. It's more like PE(M=D)(A=S). Multiplication and division, just like add and subtract, have equal priority. In those cases you do them in order.

You skipped a step.

8/2(2+2)
8/2(4)
8/8
1

You have to clear parentheses entirely first

That's a different expression entirely and it would be written differently in linear form

>puzzle games

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Zig Forums is a sub-90 IQ board.

symbolab.com/solver/step-by-step/8\div2\left(2+2\right)

It's 16. Thank you for your time.

I don't even know who is baiting who anymore, no wonder this place is such a shithole

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No? The p in pe(md)(as) only counts for inside the parentheses. If its outside it means multiply

I don’t even know who this bitch is

Found the bong.

why are people doing 2(2+2) before 8 / 2
solving parenthesis does not include the multiplication.
2 * 4 comes after the 8 / 2

No

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any time you start writing that antiquated division sign and inconsistent brackets shit like this happens

16 pemdas you tard s

For the first time in a long while trolls can blend in with actual retards making people think that this many people are being serious.

Please ask for a refund on your education

You don't need parentheses user. Please stop staining our glorious American board with your smelly, third-world mathematics.

>all these mongoloids who add in a random *
How did you get out of middle school?

At least this bait thread has an answer unlike your usual ambiguous bait threads like the portal or the monty hall problem

i wanna see you retards solve integrals

>ab could be misinterpreted as (ab)
no it couldn’t because there’s no parentheses there

Oh suck my nuts you nigger faggot

>For the first time in a long while

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Anyone saying it's 1 should kill himself

>for a long while
Zig Forums has been shit since like 2008

It's one.

One of the saddest things ever foisted on humankind is that they thought you zoomers math wrong on purpose like a joke. If you look a little deeper you'll realize they plan to keep doing this, to make it harder for different generations of people to work together

>"Obviously it's 1."

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Multiplication and Division have the same priority so it's an either or question at that point

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>undefined operators
Did you fuckwits not learn that if it’s blank that automatically mean multiply by 2

holy fuck

It's 1 because of PENIS, and you only have 1 PENIS

I think you need to calm down, chimp

That would be equal to 8÷(2(2+2))

the parentheses seem to have been specifically designed to be calculated first
and the adding/multiplying/exponents follow an order too (multiplying is adding by itself x times, exponents are multiplying itself x times)
but yeah, im no math historian but i guess it could have been either PASMDE or PEMDAS

faggot, it's not 8/2*(2+2)
it's 8/2(2+2)
there's a difference in this two equations

Substitute (2+2) with x

You're special needs, huh?

neither of those are ambiguous, this one actually is, it's literal semantics, the answer's whatever you define it as, since no one's actually dumb enough to ever write it like that

Because multiplication/division is more impactful than add/subtract? And parenthesis are an easy way to annotate what needs to happen first, so making that lowest priority would be fucking pointless?

Because its 8 divided by 2(2+2).

What else do you expect from teenagers who use Zig Forums as father figure while wasting their entire potential here and "adults" that are a result from such behaviour?

2*(2+2)= 2(2+2)
PE
MD
AS
Left to right.

ab^-1 = a * 1/b
(ab)^-1 = 1/a * 1/b

I don't have an opinion on what the answer is here, but why exactly are there such wildly differing opinions ITT?

Have they at some point changed the order of operations or is it a Europoor vs Amerifat education problem?

There literally isn't

That's right, they have the same priority so they go from left to right. Retarded mutts just read "PEMDAS" and go letter by letter when it's actually supposed to be P/E/MD/AS.

and then we have 2 unknowns, nice one.

distribution is treated as multiplication you fucking sperg

you would put a parenthesis around (2(2+2)) if you want to specify that, otherwise it's the first one

>they don't know?
>good

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The equation is improperly formatted.

No, it's not written like that
It's 8÷2 * (2+2)

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Retard lmao. How can you even post with such low IQ?

OP rn

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Why does mathematical formula have to be so intentionally hard to read?

Obelus is not defined sign that is used only in elementary school.

more proof that math is actually retarded

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ironic shitposting is still shitposting btw

There isn't your absolute mongoloid

no wonder they had to invent common core math for americans
holy shit you guys are retarded, and the worst part is you think you're right

>8/2*(2+2)
>8/2*(4)
you still have a parentheses here mongoloids so you clear it first
>8/8=1
wow that was difficult

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there is, if you write 2*(2+2) them of course division goes first but without the multiplication symbol 2(2+2) is consider as one number which you do first before division

no, distribution is multiplication outside of the parenthesis
it's 8 divided by 2 times (2 plus 2).

But guise
what is right here?!?

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you want to try reading that post again?

No, it isnt. Are you blind?

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it's 16
i swear to god people who fail this are just getting fucked by this PEMDAS system i've never heard about
they got taught this stupid system in school and they misinterpreted it

Bait

Oh, so it's just a matter of interpretation of what that sign is that's throwing everyone off then?

the real answer is who gives a fuck about this pointless fucking shit
why didn't school teach me how to get a job or do my fucking taxes instead of wasting my fucking time with this fucking life wasting shit
I should have shot up that shithole for ruining my fucking life

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you wanna read the standard again?

>sees ambiguous notation
>still attempts to solve it
Either these bitches are lying about their credentials, or this is further proof that women don't belong in STEM.

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no

11

>8/2*(4)
>8/8
Wrong order. Why did you multiply instead of doing the equation in order now that the parenthesis is done?

you only calculate the inside of the parentheses

it's obviously 2
I'm a math professor

add parentheses retard

There is a difference, brainlets.

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