Can games teach you Japanese? I learned English by playing World of Warcraft...

Can games teach you Japanese? I learned English by playing World of Warcraft, so I know that it can work for languages that have the same writing system as your native language.

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nigga those are not letters how am i supposed to remember that

Is there any particular reason it says 20-30? Do you just make another set from 31-60?

Short answer: no.
Long answer: Japanese children go through 3+ hours of homework per day writing their own character repeatedly on end, on top of being taught to speak from birth. The language, is objectively outdated and unreasonable to learn. You will either sacrifice 1000+ hours just learning what each of the 2000 basic newspaper kanji characters mean, then you will have to learn to write them. Also Japanese games have the dumbest plots imaginable and are mostly translated anyways, why even learn japanese in 2020?

This is exactly what I'm talking about, learning Japanese is a total time sink. Good on you for learning something productive, if you can muster that, next you should learn something valuable.

its fun to learn

so learn quantum physics or something else that can potentially make you a shit ton of money and engrave your name in big brain history

but I dont want to

>repeat the process
You're meant to do this daily and continue stacking 20-30 cards every day to load up on vocabulary.
Along the way, you will pick up the readings of each kanji, and since you're reading full sentences that contain each word you learned, you will have full context and a strong memory to remember it by.
You COULD do this all in isolation with only the words, but doing it this way constitutes reading in and of itself and is more productive overall.

>Can games teach you Japanese?
Yes, if you already know how to read.
If you don't know how to read, you won't learn anything.

>I learned English by playing World of Warcraft
So I assume you're able to read any English lit without using a dictionary?

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>why even learn japanese in 2020
I learned years ago because I couldn't stand cringy translations anymore.
I got a new job thanks to it.

if you're determined enough and have pattern recognition ability, yes

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>why even learn japanese in 2020?
Machine translation for Japanese isn't worth lower-case s shit.

it's easier to learn English because even if you don't recognize the word, you can still pronounce it even if its not the right pronunciation
Japanese is harder because if you see a word you don't recognize, then you're straight up fucked unless they give you the Hiragana below it

t. chink

>learn quantum physics

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If you're gonna do something like this, you will fail.
>冒険の書を書く・読む
>save/load
>つよさ
>view learned and activated skills
>授業選択
>Set class to take each weekday
fucking lol
You set yourself up for failure by translating it and thinking of it in this way.

This sounds pretty good rather than grinding 2k6 deck

I've been thinking this for a while. First of all, I would want to learn listening/speaking japanese, and would exclude writing and Kanji for the later part of learning. Taking this in mind, would it work if for example you started learning most common japanese words and phrases. And then you took anime or japenese movies/ tv shows. Watched them with subtitles, and rewatched them without, let's say, same exact episode twice? I wonder if anyone did this sorta thing themselves. Because I know a few stories of people who went to japan, and learnt speaking japanese by watching TV there, and then starting learning grammar and kanji from there. And to me, it seems like a less frustrating way of learning, if you have some knowledge, and know some words and sentences and understand stuff before hand; and not learning everything in extremely small bits, so it feels like a stop gap, every single day, if you try to learn new grammar, write down millions of kanji, etc..

cope

> - why learn it?
> - it's fun
> - then learn something else

Are you from USA? What kind of jobs do you get?

This is another reason why learning Japanese is tough for interested learning. You get arrogant dorks like this that instead of helping, they scoff and laugh at your mistakes. People like him should be encouraging new learners, cause believe me, interest in Japan dies fast after people visit it once.

of course, preferably visual novel like stein gate 0 or phoenix wrights

I've been learning Japanese for a few years now and even with a 10k+ word vocab I still need to look up words every sentence in games and it's not fun. Won't bother until I'm fluent.

Hahaha, cool thread.

Reminds me of how I learned Japanese and moved to Japan.

truly the mind of a quantum physicist at work

>interest in Japan dies fast after people visit it once

That's because you're a fat American miscreant noone can stand around being.

this is what being ankidrone does to you

I'm sorry to hear that. You at least are not the gaijin scapegoat, right?

Don't be afraid of kanjis, they are easy, If you live in Japan is easier because you are surrounded by the language, it's like a survival instinct

i do this

I'm fine.

Any problems you had were most likely caused by you, desu.

>fat
>miscreant
>noone can stand
That's a lot of projecting.

I've lived in Japan and traveled extensively. If you aren't intoxicating yourself with the aggressive alcohol campaigns, you quickly realized why migration out of Japan is such a huge issue for the government.

Because they don't want you here? I don't either.

Really? How is living there?

You are on Zig Forums instead of enjoying life in Japan, can't be that fine, is it? It's time to start asking yourself the important questions, such as: am I truly happy? Why am I here? Where will I be in the next five years?

How was that post bad advice?
Thinking of words and phrases in an entirely incorrect way is exactly what will mess a learner up moving forward. It is better for a new learner to misunderstand something all on their own rather than to rely on others' interpretations and translations.
If someone gets filtered, it is ultimately by the language and its perceived difficulty, not by others being a dick to them. Everyone knows what they must do to improve at language (and at everything really) but nobody wants to do it. The part where you have to work for it is the filter.
People can advise you of how to progress towards your learning goals, but only you can set it in motion.

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People like
(likely all the same guy, honestly)

are jaded fucks that couldn't learn Japanese properly and didn't get worshipped for being a generic American in Japan like they wanted, so now they're spewing shit all around.

In my experience- so it may not be your case. When it comes to learning Japanese, there is prevalent "gatekeeping" to "heta" newcomers.

And what's wrong with that? If that's all it takes to turn you off then don't bother