Expected a sick twisted tale on revenge

>expected a sick twisted tale on revenge
>got more boring shit on manipulation stripping the ability to pass memes and have an identity instead
Yawn.

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Not only that but the AI was shit and the game wasn't even finished.

>literally not caring for your identity
Orwell dystopia lover motherfucker

The wishful thinking pre-release was the best.

>play as Big Boss building Outer Heaven and discard his humanity
>FINAL CHAPTER: Outer Heaven
>Infiltrate your own built Outer Heaven fortress as Solid Snake in a complete Fox Engine remake of MG1

That's what I wanted out of V.

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the exact moment the game lost me

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The message of the series was that Big Boss was a bad guy for unknowingly going against The Boss's actual will (which he never learned about until MGS4)
>"do/fight for whatever you please but do so by following orders instead of giving them so that others can do/fight for whatever they please"
after MSF crashed down, not for being a NUCLEAAAR murderer.

Jesus fucking christ you people didn't pay attention to 2 and 4. If you did you realized that TPP's trailers wouldn't make sense and that the actual game has a differently told story.
Kojima was encouraging you all to use your FUCKING HEADS instead of blindly consuming the promotional material.

Were the actual Big Boss and Ocelot fucking or not? The ending made them look like a tragic couple or some shit.

>if you did you [would have] realized
Sorry for my typos

MG2 remake with gay zanzibar sex scenes between BiBo and ocelot when???

I will keep posting this based reaction image and say that MGS was a cringe pro-libertarian cuckfest series that was never good to begin with every thread

The military research done to make the games is amazing but that's the only thing good about it. Everything else, suck my balls

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this, fuck.

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>Kojima says multiple times in a MGS3 commentary that they both fell in love with each other at first sight
>they probably never confessed or anything because BB is a dumbass
>Ocelot most likely died a virgin in MGS4

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>Kojima was encouraging you all to use your FUCKING HEADS instead of blindly consuming the promotional material.

Yeah, MGS2 taught me to not trust a trailer since the contents of the trailer may not be in the final game.

Not even 3's loots of gimmicks and TECHNOLOGY were great?

>18 year old edgy weebs still mad that the game wasn't about le Bad Boss snorting cocaine from the bodies of dead niglets

>>Infiltrate your own built Outer Heaven fortress as Solid Snake in a complete Fox Engine remake of MG1

God I fucking wish. That would have redeemed the entire game for me.

Isn’t it fucking bizarre? They released 3 prequel games and generated hype by advertising them as “the missing link to Outer Heaven” and not a single one actually features fucking Outer Heaven. Not even the construction of the fortress or any real MG1 setups with characters from that game, just building random PMCs and the “concept” of OH which they already used in almost every MG in existence.

If “just use your imagination, it will happen offscreen in a decade” was all we were meant to hope for then they should have just left it at MGS3 that one seeded Big Boss’s motivation and told us enough. All these games of Not-Outer Heaven hardly bridged the gap at all and left more questions than answers.

filtered

>where men become demons
>"snake, don't kill the lil niggers! they are just child"
>"there is no space for angels in our outer heaven"
>noooo, don't kill enemy soldiers. you will lose heroism!
>nooooo, don't make a nuke! We must disarm and get rid of all the nukes!

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Not only that, said games were advertising that you play as Snake, solely just the word "Snake", not even anything other than the word "Snake", when that's literally lies and that you're actually playing as Big Boss in them.

>pic related
The excuse that 3 pulled off was fantastic, PW was shitty but acceptable and GZ had no reason to do what it did.

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(cont.)
Also, V was also the only non-MSX Big Boss Metal Gear game where Big Boss onscreen was really shown as Big Boss, acting like "jaded and cynical conniving manipulating bastard" instead of "copy of Solid Snake, even does the same actions. only difference is that he talks jaded and cynical"

And that happened oddly specifically in the TPP part of the game, when he stopped being protagonist with the role switching over to Venom.

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i remember the threads whenever a new trailer or info dropped, Zig Forums made better games than PP 100 times over, the long development time, announcing it like 5 years before it released, the weekly live streams where we'd sit around till 3am just for Kojima to show us a fucking chicken hat, it was all leading up to that unfinished game, I've never been more disappointed by a release

jokes on you
I kill everyone and get s rank every time

I'm insanely autistic about being a pacifist when the game gives me the option to be.

It's like he didn't understand why people liked the character swap twist in 2 and tried to replicate that
Or maybe he did it as another way to spite players

I used to be like that too, now I just don't care anymore

He just wanted to make a bunch of cinematic masturbation and THEN build a game concept around it.
Same way Death Stranding went down. Cutscenes first, then gameplay.

just proves how broken and unrefined the game concept was

or that the game rewards multiple playstyles

>make false advetising
>guise it's okay because I was actually CRITICIZING false advertisement that will be $60 please thank you also fuck you you stupid idiots
2 wrongs, 1 right, etc.

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There's no reward tho. Basically every style works, which means the game is balanced in a way your playstyle does not matter at all.
>I kill everyone and get s rank every time
There you go.

Yeah that was definitely a red flag and you could tell Kojima was prone to pulling some bullshit just with that. A game that was essentially “the tragedy of Big Boss” was a pipe dream from a guy not brave enough to sell us a game where he drops the Snake moniker even. Instead we got some messy brainlet “What if V means fifth Snake???” story and it’s a shame.

See this is just conjecture but I feel like Kojima for some reason cared more about “Snake” and his perception as a brand mascot at that point than actually seeing through Big Boss as his own character and what we all knew that entails. It’s like after Raiden he has no faith in his audience accepting something different, so as long as he’s playable Big Boss can never be his own man.

You’re right he kind of does based on what we learn in TPP, if only he actually featured in the game outside of the hospital and Venom’s story didn’t feel like some kind of gaiden as a result of it all. Plus it was kind of still Zero’s stunt that Big Boss just accepts, so it removes his agency to a degree and I don’t think is nearly what people prop it up as. What you’re left with is a disappointment regardless, its not executed well at all.

Every style works if you can pull it off correctly. If you go in guns ablazing you need to make up for it in some other way to still S it, this is simple shit.

you don't understand MGS