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Nioh 2 thread faggots

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Why would you waste your time playing any of the Nioh games when Sekiro exists?

Not condemning your or anything; just curious.

name one similarity between the two games besides
>is action game

Sekiro is a wholly linear game, there is almost zero replayability and it lacks depth, all things Nioh has in spades

Both are Souls clones
Both use as setting medieval Japan
Both aim at the same audience

You have Nioh and Sekiro mixed up on your post, mate.

Playing through Nioh 1 before I move onto two, had a few questions.

I'm starting to get underleveled for missions, I'm level 62 for the level 70 main quest, do I have to start grinding levels or will I be okay to keep at this pace for the rest of the game?
Can I do all the DLC in my first play through or do I have to go to NG+ to get the gear/levels needed for it?
Nioh 2 looks like more of the same game from just looking at videos, is it like that (which I'm fine with) or more refinement to the game

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mostly because sekiro is hot fucking garbage

Sekiro is easily the most visually interesting and utterly boring From game, Miyazaki must have been huffing ether designing it

As long as you can survive and not get your ass kicked, it's fine, it doesn't matter. If you start struugling too much because of the level difference though, i'd advise you to grind a few levels and do some side missions but don't exceed the recommended level for your current main mission.

Because they're two entirely different games. That'd be like saying why watch lion king when kimba exists. Yes they're both about lions who become kings but that's where the similarities end


Also what's the best form and why is it phantom? You just dead ass get a royal guard, why would I use anything else?

Nioh 1 has a retardedly huge difficulty spike towards the end, you'll probably have to grind but once you get over the hump you're good for the DLC. Nioh 2 is Nioh 1 but better in every way, including better difficulty curve

>press r1 when ur about to get hit until the bar fills up
>repeat for several hours
nah, he hit the nail pretty much on the head, sekiro is boring as shit past the first playthrough

But user, that's not brute
>not backhanding a bitch in his place

brute is the best counter by far

>no timing requirement
>always works

oops

- Suggested level is just a suggestion. If your level and gear are enough to survive and kill you're fine.
- I think you should play at least 1/3 of ng+ before jumping into the DLC so you get gear and levels enough to prevail.
- No idea; I'm waiting for 2 to hit PC but people say it's a refinement from the first game, some mockingly calling it Nioh 1.5

The most fun location is that area before Yoshimoto Imagawa, full of paralysis lightning. I love luring enemies there, letting them get hit, then just murdering them in cold blood.

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Brute is nice but you don't really get any benefit from it. Phantom is just a pure stop once you learn the timing. I will agree brute is the better form to fight in though. Phantom just has the best counter

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nioh 1.5 is a compliment. more sequels should be the first game but vastly improved. i feel like some of you retards rather have nioh 2 be to nioh 1 what ds2 is to ds1.

>brute is the best counter by far
Based retard. Brute has applications where only it will work (Daidara Bocchi's hand-in-ground, Guardian Spirit attacks), as well as being easy to use against delayed red-attacks but that's where the benefits end. Feral has far more uses aside from red-attacks such as dodging after whiffing with a slow move, or cancelling the long out-of-ki animation, and Feral and Phantom both work far better for animationcancelling with feathers which is a devastating way to pump out a shitton of damage that is so cheap and quick it gets employed a ton in Nioh 2 speedrunning.
Also, though Brute has moves which only it can counter, those can be dodged without Brute (Daidara Bocchi's just makes rocks fall for a while, and the Guardian Spirit attacks are slow and telegraphed).
In comparison, Brute counter doesn't work against a very large amount of the faster burst-counterable attacks without insanely fast reactiontimes or sometimes just needing to guess and burst countering in advance before any sign of red (notably against grabs like Ippon's and Kasha's, as well as stuff like Blue Yoki's 2kat dash). For some it works, but requires a trade unless your positioning and timing are both near-perfect (IE Azai and Tatarimokke's dive).
This balance is fine as it is since you can take a hit, but the point is that some burst counters can be completely unavoidable while using Brute, and in later levels of the Abyss or WotN might become entirely unusable because of that.

TLDR: Brute fun but not that good

COME

>Brute is nice but you don't really get any benefit from it.
It's hyperefficient if you use it as a "core" at the end of attack strings.
>decent ki damage
>500 damage
>guaranteed stagger against everything aside from Rokurokubo because TN made them have infinite hyperarmor
>one (1) anima per cast
You get a lot out of it if you view it as a tool to be used aside from parries.

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>Brute has applications where only it will work (Daidara Bocchi's hand-in-ground, Guardian Spirit attacks)
I was wondering what the fuck I was supposed to do against these burst attacks with no active hitbox

What's the DLC going to be about? Haven't followed Nioh 2 news in a while.
Any info on the PC port?

I never thought about it like that! But honestly I'm still going to have to pick phantom for my play style. Having an instant get out of jail free card is so crazy handy especially since it devours yokai Ki. But I might switch over to Atlus bear more often now that I'm in hard mode.

I suck cocks

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I recommend brute to anyone still learning the game, or first playthroughs or if they're bad at action games since you really don't need to learn timings to use it

Damn I really don't want to grind. Just want to see all the content before I head into Nioh 2. Well whatever

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>the filename
is that the original suck dicks poster?

>Kaz i'm already a Nioh 2

Just think of cute Lady Maria of the Spanish Empire waiting for you in the DLC

just play Nioh 2 user if you can afford it, it's a prequel, almost every system has been refined and enhanced, and it has an active player base that can help you coop

Yep, I agree. I think it's definitely the simplest one to use if you're not too familiar with action games, though I'd probably recommend Phantom if they're decently experienced with Fromsoft games and parrying. I just think that Brute is the worst burst counter if you're experienced (not by a huge amount though).

Fatlus Bear is almost as good as the faggot bird.
Knock yourself out.
>Having an instant get out of jail free card is so crazy handy especially since it devours yokai Ki
I mean yeah, but phantom also draisn regular ki and you risk getting guardbroken.

>more sequels should be the first game but vastly improved
Agreed. I never said I wasn't fine with Nioh 1.5

>DaS2
I like DaS2 and I believe it's a genuinely good game so I don't see the problem.

brute countering the those dives isn't really hard at all, I did it with almost 100% consistency when I was farming those bosses

and trading damage with brute is nothing when you've got protection talismans

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>2kat
is okay actually if you're not going for the cheese

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I was retarded when I first started playing and never did the dojo missions for the burst parries, so for the first quarter of the game I never really knew how Feral parry worked, it was a lot of blind luck whether I would hit or not

Hey guys, my sword broke. It's also not transferable. It's kinda cool.

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Am I retarded for only wanting to play through the game with one weapon class? I know i'm limiting myself but it feels like a more pure experience

Spear is the Chad weapon

that's a nice lookin odachi there

Yeah but my Ki is back almost immediately since they're frozen from the parry. And I'd rather get guardcrushed than take a full attack to the face

Actually, no, spear is the thinking man's weapon.

Which is the cuck weapon?

yes, it's goldie

>brute countering the those dives isn't really hard at all, I did it with almost 100% consistency when I was farming those bosses
I don't think it's absurdly hard either, but your position needs to be pretty precise to land it and not trade (from my own experience and compared to Phantom).
>and trading damage with brute is nothing when you've got protection talismans
I mean, yeah, trading is pretty un-impactful in general once you hit NG+ and beyond, my point was just that Brute is the only form of countering that suffers from attacks it simply can't counter without activating it pre-emptively, or can't counter without trading, so in situations where you can't really take damage or ya die (naked challenge runs, super low health, lower Abyss or WotN etc. etc.), then using Brute can get you killed a lot more easily than if you used the other two with little benefit to be gained from using Brute otherwise.