Why is it so divisive?

Why is it so divisive?

I've never play Scholar but I have really fond memories of vanilla DaS2. I enjoyed it a lot and it's certainly better than the first game and DeS.

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>it's certainly better than the first game and DeS.

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How is it that you know it's divisive without having ever read any of the discussion around it? Are you closing threads halfway through a sentence so that you can make a new thread later? What the fuck are you doing?

no idea, its clearly the best game overall. it would be ds1 but it became barely playable after the pikachu and snorlax fight

It really is. And not just better either, it's A LOT better. DaS2 is a great game.

So close yet so far

What the fuck are you talking about? Idiot.

Aight lads, you know the drill, start comparing DS2 to DS3, then snowball the thread into DS3 vs anything but DS2.
Chop chop now, we don't have all day here.

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There's no hidden meaning, learn to read. This thread wouldn't be here if you had any amount of literacy.

plays like shit, looks like shit, ends like shit. can't speak for PvP since i pirated all three. but i like 2 better than 3 for sure.

Not better than demon's.

It's not divisive, it's universally reviled. Shitposters sometimes pretend otherwise.

so many changed things from 1 that made no sense at all
everyone talks about adaptability and soul memory but the little things like no rag doll corpses or not being able to dislike messages are very odd and unnecessary changes

What? Nigga go back and read your post. It makes no sense in relation to what I said. Single digit IQ retards shouldn't be allowed on the internet.

i got that user's point just fine, maybe you're just dumb.

>plays like shit, looks like shit, ends like shit
You just described DaS1. Good job.

if not for those horrendous deadzones i'd be almost inclined to agree with you

>It makes no sense in relation to what I said
>Why is it so divisive?
>How is it that you know it's divisive without having ever read any of the discussion around it?
It makes perfect sense, but you're illiterate. I'll paraphrase(ask your mom what that means, she won't know either): In order for you to know it is divisive, you must have heard people say that it's divisive. In order to not know why, you'd have to have immediately left the discussion before they were able to tell you why. That would be about halfway, or less, through their thought. "I like/dislike it because" and that's where you've fucked off. Why didn't you just stick around to see what they had to say?

>invasion timer
>no whole eye orb, have to repeatedly kill enemies to get more drops of cracked orbs
>enemies die permanently after enough kills unless you join a covenant
>ruined parries
>ruined backstabs
>adaptability stat
>muh SL 125 pvp meta is killed for minmaxfags
>shitty bosses (dragonriders, duke's dear freja, demon of song, rat king, etc)
>shitty level design (lol lava land atop a tower wtf)
>introduction of the gayest covenant ever, the blue sentinels + way of blue
>pointless mechanics like human effigies
>broken ass rolling
>enemy tracking
>no patches the hyena
>bland ass characters
and on and on but hey people have already talked to death about this game so fuck off will ya.

I think now DaS is all said and done, people need to accept the fact that DeS is easily the worst game in the series.

>a sequel to dark souls that has an interconnected world, no teleporting at the start, a fixed amount of estus, and lets you level up only at bonfires

is that so much to ask for? why the fuck did every game since dark souls 1 arbitrarily change its good design decisions?

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When did I ever say I didn't read threads about it? Jesus Christ. You're making shit up in your own head and replying to yourself. Fucking schizo.

it was different

>When did I ever say I didn't read threads about it?
When you asked why. When have you ever asked "why?" to a question you know the answer to? It's very simple, but still eludes you entirely.
>replying to yourself
A literate person would be able to see that this isn't the case. I'm answering your questions from your posts.

because it equally has good things about it and fucking infuriatingly retarded shit things about it. most people are going to decide either to like it for the good things it does or hate it for the stupid shit it does. both sides have fair points.

It's very good in some aspects, but I can clearly see why it's hated.

yeah but not the good kind of different like BB and Sekiro

I said I didn't play Scholar, which, for whatever reason, you mistakenly read as I haven't discussed the game before on Zig Forums. I think this is what confused you and now you're defending your retarded reply like a nutcase.

I'm sure this is what has happened.

Dark Souls 2 is utterly schizophrenic in its design decisions and reeks of a game made by fans who don't really understand what made the first game good

but it's still a decently enjoyable game

>>shitty level design (lol lava land atop a tower wtf)
hold the fuck up, that's not "level design" that's just shitty geography. shitty level design would be like having a level filled with knee deep water that slows you down and tons of enemies who lock on to you from outside your range and shoot long range homing magic or something.

>I enjoyed it a lot and it's certainly better than the first game and DeS.
This is why the game is divisive user. It had very obvious flaws on launch that just shifted when Scholars came out but it still got held up by an annoying contingent of posters, journalists, and e-celebs as the best Souls game for really bad reasons.

If you think you have a good reason to prop this game up as being better than it's predecessors. Make your case and we can go around the horn again as is always the case with these daily threads.

So you've discussed the game before? So you know why it's divisive, but asked anyway? Nobody's going to believe you, and why would they? See, I'm asking "why" for something that I don't know. I'd tell you to go back to school, but you're probably up this late because there isn't any class tomorrow.

Did this game kill Zig Forums‘s dog or something? Literally daily threads for 6 years

fromsoft peaked at this title.
best player diversity
best pvp
butt loads of armor and weapons
grinding for covenants is actually fun
bonfire ascetics is a great touch to pve

Dark souls is about path to the epic boss fight now, user.
2hard4you is what killed the series.

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Black gulch always felt to me like what a 9 year old would do with a level creator. Just one big straight corridor lined end to end with poison spitting statues, it's a fucking joke.

fpbp

because its fucking boring and uninspired. who in the right mind would spend time playing this shit.

just need to put DaS2fags in their place at least a couple times a week
for some reason they tend to get uppity about their inferior sequel every now and then

or what about a level that was just an enormous flight of stairs with big golem enemies that aggroed in pairs and had infinite stamina haha wouldn't that be funny lol

Funny how many of those are literally false and pointless.
>enemies die permanently
That doesn't change anything, if you are not a moron who is constantly getting stuck in bosses you won't even notice
>ruined parries
No, it didn't. They work just fine. Not so good in PvE, sure, but in PvP they are ok.
>ruined backstabs
Oh, you mean FIXED them, right? They are there, but are not spammable and terrible like Ds1, right?
>adaptability stat
I can see why people hate on this, but let me just make my point here: the game would be too easy if you had omnidirection rolls + 100% def shields + full iframe rolls since the beggining, so they made it into a stat. Just upgrade it, it doesn't ruin any builds
>shitty level design
That's not level design, brother, that's level interconnectivity. Yea, it is weird sometimes, but it happened probably because the development of the game was a mess
>pointless mechanics like human effigies
????/ what? how is that pointless?

I respectfully disagree.

The 3 DLCs are the best pieces of content of the entire franchise. The Poison one most specifically.

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I didn't mind that level, but i remember being furious when one of those infinite stamina mace knights smashed a treasure chest before i could find out what was in it.

It's not better than DS1 or DeS but it's not a bad game at all. I sunk a ton of hours into it, mostly playing PvP. Also, if you don't think the DLC in this game was among the best in the series then you're smoking rocks.

I don't know, brother, but as Bloodborne and DS3 had the same issues (teleportation from the start, HUB outside main world, etc) I fear that those features are not considered good game design by Miyazaki himself

does that level also have sections where you drown and die because you can't see where the fuck you're going

it's a level, and someone had to design it. hence, shitty level design. but, if you're talking about "level design" then the levels in 2 suck balls compared to the first game, they have no direction, the first game's levels were more like an obstacle course to get through with traps and enemies along the way, and 2's level design is ass backwards, open ended and filled with lots of empty space.

it's just not as good.