This retarded fucking game gets broken the moment some faggot decides to use his shield and nothing but his shield...

You realize that the shields get smaller, right? Just hit it safely and eventually you'll either poke and get a combo, or break it. Then do your best shieldbreak combo.
You did lab one out, right?

can you not read the part where they break out and the end result is less than 10%

space retard

Grab and down throw you massive fucking mongoloid.
Also, FUCKING GIT GUD

Do you not know what a disadvantage state is?

what gets me more than anything is spot dodge into attacking. This needs to be removed from the game. And I dont know how many people i've played against that are incapable of approaching without rolling
>if youre so good, just predict the roll and punish accordingly

If I call out the roll with an attack its not even enough that im attacking behind me I have to attack behind me AND get the timing right, or my attack will finish while their STILL in invincibility frames. That is beyond retarded.

Fire the dumb japs that design this game and make attacks do reduced damage out of(after) a spot dodge and make getting hit out of a roll do increased damage/knock back

>and the end result is less than 10%
The end result is them taking damage and being in a disadvantage state. Either they eat an aerial directly after the throw, or they choose an option.

Correctly guess the option e.g. chase an airdodge or jump and you get to hit them or put them in an even worse position, or both.

No, really, you gotta get good.

When you grab people you're not supposed to sit there and hit them, you're supposed to throw and combo

>That is beyond retarded
Never play KoF then, holy shit.

Spot doging then killing the opponent is so satisfying.

>what gets me more than anything is spot dodge into attacking.

It's really no different than if spot dodges had less recovery across the board. Just punish them quicker.

doesn't matter when they're dragging my 7 minute match into sudden death

im not suggesting that spot dodges need to be buffed. Im saying its too rewarding. People arent making a good prediction, theyre whiffing an attack, spot dodging where they SHOULD be getting punished and then attacking. Thats some dumb nigger shit that only a pea brained jap could be dumb enough to design.

sometimes I wonder why most smash threads are just rosterfagging or general shitposting. then I look at actual smash threads and it all makes sense

empty shorthops is my solution
but I understand, the punish game in ultimate is shite

How can you possibly be a scrub at a children's party game.
Jesus christ break their shield if you're going to be such a woman about them using it.

How fucking slow are you at inputs where someone can wiggle out before you tap down?

How to win Smash Ultimate every match

>look up character with stupidly low frame data on some attack
>pick them
>hover outside of your opponent's reach
>focus on being evasive constantly
>wait for them to try something risky or with a lot of endlag
>use your stupidly low frame data attack
>repeat

The entire game is Melee Jigglypuff: 2

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>opponent approaches
>I shield
>opponent gets away before I can react
>I approach
>opponent shields
>I get away before he can react
>opponent approaches
>I shield
>opponent messes up and doesn't get away in time
>I can grab, down-throw, hit them with an aerial for some damage
>rinse and repeat
Is every Smash game this mind numbing gameplay wise? Ultimate just feels really boring compared to previous entries, even including Brawl and Smash 4

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Imagine not being able to win a party in