I've noticed that competitive pokemon is widely ridiculed on this board...

I forgot to add natures.

Playing the main game or casually with friends isn't really affected for me, I don't mind not being as optimized
IVs should be removed or all maxed out at level 100 imo
Depends on the format but you can use weaker pokemon you like in lower tiers if you're talking about smogon

I like that brand of autism though, like I said it's not for everyone

What's the point of having a board for your niche if you fags dont use it kys

I haven't liked single battles since Gen IV. I also liked VGC and double battles more in Gen IV and V before Megas and Z-Moves were introduced.

Overall I think the balance has gone down the shitter because of Base Stat and Base Power power creep, which should've been limited to the buffs up to Gen V. The type gems in Gen V were already pushing it.

Competitive pokemon was fun for me for awhile, but RNG really does have a bad effect on the game as a whole. Having a mon with Stone Miss or Focus Miss is extremely upsetting since you can't really depends on those moves. It was kind of fun trying to use UU or RU mons for OU, especially for niche uses, but typically there's only so much they can do. I just wish playing and learning about EVs, IVs, and natures didn't give me autism with normal playthroughs where negative natures make me unwilling to use a Pokemon.

Containment boards are a fucking stupid idea and don't work. Political posting doesn't stop when you make /news/, /vg/ exists yet I see them form here constantly. The containment board has only made their autism more severe, every time.

I haven’t played comp since gen 4 when bp scizor was king. Did they seriously ban baton pass? Holy fucking shit.

I’m referring to online (basically VGC singles) I heard there is more diversity on doubles but I don’t really like that format

>Containment boards are a fucking stupid idea and don't work
/mlp/ and /trash/ disagree

One player was destroying Smogon in its entirety by combining baton pass with magic bounce, which made it impossible for Smogon's favored strategy of non-volatile status conditions to stop.

I got bored of talking about it on /vp/ which also happens to be slower than Zig Forums
I think that the Gen V-VIII mons should've been less minmaxed overall, and some of the newer mons like Dracovish and gen 6 talonflame are poorly designed for competitive

>>inb4 >>/vp/
>I've already talked to them about competitive plenty
So what?
You've got your own board for a reason, user.

Dipping my toe in online battles is always fun, even when I lose. Pokemon's just got so many options, it's always neat to see whatever bullshit the other guy's bringing to the table.

I'm too much of a scrub for actual competitive tournaments though.

>I haven’t played comp since gen 4
Smogon seems a lot more ban happy nowadays which seems to have painted them into a corner when it comes to strategies as new counters are ever shrinking, much like TF2 I think they need to restructure the whole thing by unbanning everything and starting over, I remember when Garchomps ban was a huge fucking deal and people used to bring up all the time how the only thing Japans competitive scene didn't ban double team or bright powder and only ever ban at the time was Swords Dance Heracross who ironically fell to BL due to usage in Smogons scene with murmurs of UU

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I only play VGC format. Fuck Smogon.

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magic bounce espeon was common in bp teams before this gen
I guess they added some more

I dropped this piece of shit due to all the autistic RNG factors thrown in to be competitive.

Stone miss is the worst offender since its THE rock stab move. I concept designed a move called Stalagbite that could be an accurate physical rock move
I've never played cartridge online since ORAS but yeah Ive heard that its samey
I want to be insulted more, they're too constructive when they're not posting extremely obvious bait
Especially fun in gen 7 which has the most amount of options, I've heard that a notable amount of people are still playing the generation because of it

>unbanning everything
Maybe not everything, there's some stuff that was banned for a good reason.

Ok
My hero
I'm guessing that RNG was mostly intended to spice up the main game and casual battles

>VGC singles
Some of the gimmick friendly tournaments are great, like the halloween one which was spooky pokemon only (plus pikachu and eevee)

I hear you. They've been alleviating it a little bit with stuff like options for EVs and bottlecaps for IVs, but it's still so much work, it's just not enough.

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What gen was it banned in?

I used to really rag on people who were into competitive pokemon but it's oddly enjoyable. Not in the actual games themselves however. They've done everything possible to make sure its impossible to do in the actual games. Gen 8 is a shitshow though, dynamax is the dumbest shit, I'll stick with 7.

Things like crits and focus blast are part of what makes it fun. If it was strictly just numbers everything would just come down to math instead of risk/reward. It would be incredibly boring.

A reliable physical rock move would be great. It's terrible that after Stone Miss you have Rock Slide, which still has a lower accuracy than it should have. That's like if Thunderbolt or Flamethrower had a 85% to miss, they would be far worse moves.

>super luck togekiss
>coil milotic
>hustle dynamax
They're doubling down on the RNG and i doubt itll get better.

Hustle dynamax is the opposite of rng

Garchomp? Gen 4 iirc

Great stats, STAB Earthquake, but most importantly Sand Veil.

I don't think you'd even need a week to ban the majority of Ubers

I dunno which you mean specifically
Garchomp was banned in Gen4, Heracross' Swords Dance was banned in Gen4 Japan

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The problem is Smogon is super fucking biased with how they want the game to be played. For example when the game came out they were all calling GF retards because "you idiots! All the good Pokemon like Toxapex, Clefable, and Ferrothorn are still in! You didn't balance shit!"

So then the game comes out and these Pokemon are getting slaughtered by Pokemon that can take advantage of the new Dynamaxing mechanic, and it's being explored with a kind of Gyarados Hawlucha Ditto triangle. Then they ban the mechanic in less than a month, comparing it to shit that it makes no sense to be compared to, and Clefable, Toxapex, and Ferrothorn become the best Pokemon again because that's the game they want.

They've also adopted this really weird policy this gen where "Counter" is now falsely being equated with "Counterplay" which essentially means any Pokemon that can threaten a stall core of meta Pokemon with a choice band is auto banned.

Just Hidden Power Rock my man oh wait

That said Rock's really fucking good, most of the good types are weak to it, it's probably in a fair enough place right now but I'm also speaking from a position of saltiness because of Stealth Rock

>it's being explored with a kind of Gyarados Hawlucha Ditto triangle
Tell me more?

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Smogon Doubles is now more of an alternative to vgc since it banned dynamax 2 months ago, so if you wanted to play doubles you can check that out
Dynamax actually benefits more defensive playstyles since they are better equipped to handle them than teams that are offense-oriented
Make stealth rock do extra damage against Elevated pokemon (flying/Levitate/air balloon) and neutral damage against everything else
Take away rock's water weakness
Make new rock moves that are more consistent, try to make them less widespread to other types except for grass which needs better coverage (preferably rock)

>Make stealth rock do extra damage against Elevated pokemon (flying/Levitate/air balloon) and neutral damage against everything else
Please no

Unless you mean instead of doing rock type damage, but then it's just another Spikes

The secondary effect of flying-type max moves is increasing the user's speed, both Gyarados and hawlucha can use stab Flying moves
Gyarados has moxie, can set up rain with the water max move, and learns Power Whip in gen 8
Ditto can transform into your opponents dynamax sweeper after they boost and coubtersweep with choice scarf
Hawlucha outspeeds ditto because unburden's speed Boost isn't copied, and the fighting max move increases attack