Another XCDE thread

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I love both, don't drag that argument into here.
All I'm saying is reducing all of these characters of whatever side you don't like to "X is only doing Y for Z" is not all there is to the games.

>Fighting in shallow water
>Suddenly start doing way worse
>Riki waded in to the deep water behind the enemy and made no effort to come back

That means you are retarded, a teenager, and have never played XB1. You should get out of this thread and throw your XB2 cartridge in the trash. Always remember, XB1 is perfect.

SAY IT WITH ME!
XB1 is perfect.

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xb1 is perfect
but xb2 is pretty gud

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If you can simply and concisely state a character's motivations for why they're on the journey and they make sense from both a logic and storytelling standpoint, that's a good thing.

god I want to fuck Shulk

The slow framed shot of her at the end of Future Connected is the best "I must protect this smile" face I've seen in a long time.

Sharla did nothing wrong, she didn’t know how much Fiora meant for Shulk.

Also she basically did nothing,

>the world is completely empty, there's no interactivity, no places of interest, no mini-games, no fucking chests even, just enemies and floating blue balls to collect
>level design is non-existent, you have a jump button, but there isn't even basic platforming
>movement is painfully slow so traversing these big emply areas becomes a slog early on
>there's no mounting mechanics which are necessary for this type of game
>very poor fast travel, especially in locations like Alcamoth or the Frontier village where you still have to spend several minutes just to get to that one NPC to report a quest
>the game cockblocks you from what little exploration there is with its retarded hit rate scaling so you have basically no chance against any enemy 6 levels above you
>combat is extremely static and requires little involvement from the player, once you get a hold of a character, it's using the same arts in the same exact order over and over
>the player has almost no options outside of 8 arts equipped, there's no even fucking consumables
>party AI sucks a wall of dicks, there's no way to change it and you can only give commands to your partners once in a full moon if you're lucky
>there's no enemy variety, 50 hours in you'll fight the same bunnies and caterpillars you fought on your way to colony 9 in the beginning
>it does not even matter since no enemies require you to use different tactics, you need to use one extra art in the beginning when fighting mechons, but that's it
>unique monsters are the same shit as regular monsters, but with more HP
>there's zero resource management, the most important part of any RPG, you don't even need to care about your HP when walking through poisonous water or whatever since they'll just regen as soon as you walk out of it
>probably the worst quest system in any RPG, even when you see something that may seem interesting, it always requires bringing 25 flowers first

How do I build Fiora, and what party does she go best in?
I tried swapping her into a party with Reyn and Sharla, but Fiora does so much damage that Reyn's incapable of tanking, because he can't maintain aggro.

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At least we can all agree X is shit.

>quests giving EXP is the most retarded decision ever since fighting enemies outside of quest ones is literally meaningless
>gem crafting is simplistic randomized shit and takes too long, especially when your characters have high affinity
>Heart-to-Hearts are one of the worst versions of bonding system, often referencing events the player never witnessed or heard of so you have to play a guessing game
>affinity grinding in general
>"definitive" edition doesn't even have basic stuff like a bestiary
>having to open a chest every time you defeat an enemy is a massive waste of time

>All I'm saying is reducing all of these characters of whatever side you don't like
The good thing is that you can reduce the XB2 characters, but never XB1's! Or else you're retarded and a teenager!

>ery poor fast travel
The sad thing is that you have a lot of stuff in that post that's true, but then you go and say stupid shit like this.

X is the best one.

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>but xb2 is pretty gud
Nope, throw your cart into the toilet for that.

For the life of me I do not understand how you can love Xenoblade with it's awful writing, voiceacting, repetitive shallow combat, dull sidequests and lackluster visuals. But that's weebs for you, horrible outdated design praised and convoluted stories with kindergarten melodrama that can bring them to tears. Fuck sake read a decent book and play an actual rpg like Baldurs Gate 2

For digestion, yes. However, this also becomes fairly one-dimensional and doesn't lend itself well to replays or revisits.

X's problems are falling for the open world meme and falling for the create a character meme.
Also, that artstyle does not translate into 3d well.
And having four party members feels busted since it's so easy to stunlock.

Based OP continuing to deliver the sweet, Shulk-tacular, low impact shirtless loving.

Bonus Reyn is also appreciated.

She healed my party in the ether mines and then got put on the bench for the rest of the game
She basically gets a participation prize

SOUL vs Soulless

thank fuck christ for quest markers
>go kill thing SOMEWHERE ON BIONIS

I skipped all sidequests on wii for good reason

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man I wish shulk had more lewds. such a cute twink

That's blasphemy! She wanted revenge so she joined Shulk! Did you even play XB1? Of course you didn't, otherwise you would be smart like me!

Auto attack bot. With 50% Haste and 50% double attack (turns her regular double attacks into quadruple attacks).

>baldur's cringe

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No, because they all have merit, and is the pinnacle of something great bogged down by meddling corporate execs wanting a fucking MMO.

Just started the extra story. Don't wanna play as Shulk or especially nopon. How do you use Melia's gimmick?

>For digestion, yes.
No. If you have to jump through hoops to justify a characters actions and they don't have a clear and understandable goal or reason for their journey, that's a bad thing.

>However, this also becomes fairly one-dimensional and doesn't lend itself well to replays or revisits.
No, because their goal is not all there should be to them. There should also be characterization and character development and interaction with other cast members and reaction to plot events as things happens. The basics should still always be there and always make sense.

>tfw XBCDE has no dlc announced
>could have had battle tower dlc where you get the sisters as playable party members
Shame.

XB1 characters are all 5 dimensional unlike XB2 characters who are all paper thin and unrelatable.

Can someone explain to me Alvis?

I've played X2 and come to understand kthat the architect is Klaus/Zanza and that Alvis, along with Pneuma and Logos are computers used in Klaus' experiment. Where I'm confused is that Alvis is the Monado and seems to be more powerful than Zanza who is literally the god of that universe. I'm confused of the power levels here and what exactly is was Alvis' intention in betraying his creator

>there's no even fucking consumables
This is actually one of my favourite things about xenoblade, in other RPGs you can just horde stat ups or health consumables to trivialise shit

Did they manage to get Melia's voice actress back?

Zanza was not a god. Alvis is a computer with access to god, and Zanza has admin rights.

they wanted to do more than future connected but it would have impacted xenoblade 3, I'm thankful we got anything new at all desu

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Basically Alvis just decided who his driver was, and sided with Shulk.

Yes

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Okay then who is god? The conduit?

Yes, although the new epilogue suffers from bad voice direction

Another bad thing is to discredit a characters actions by jumping through hoops downplaying their reasons for joining the MC.

I'm still upset that Tyrea isn't a party member.
I'm fine with no Melia/Fiora decision like the Pyra/Mythra decision since FC exists, but it's lame that you get two OC nopon with copypasted skillsets instead of the existing character who is relevant to the plot getting Fiora's skillset.

>512386849
>xenoblade 3

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Summon bolt+Summon copy for 40% buff to ether. Use your third slot to spam ice and earth and watch him die from DOT.

You turn her into an critical auto-attack blender.
Also once you get Final Cross aggro is whatever since you can just topple lock almost everything.
Make sure you use the Speed chest so you don't have to waste a weapon slot on Haste and can use shit like Double attack, Topple Plus and Weapon Power instead.

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is her actress as cute as she sounds

Nobody can be asshurt when telling the truth.

>512387119

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>by jumping through hoops downplaying their reasons for joining the MC.
Blind leaps of faith on a one in a million shot aren't good reasons to do things just because we as the audience know the MC is the MC so everything will work out.

Melia acts like a gun. You load her spells, and fire them with her Talent Art.

>Make sure you use the Speed chest so you don't have to waste a weapon slot on Haste and can use shit like Double attack, Topple Plus and Weapon Power instead.
But it doesn't give the max haste buff.

Any more arts I should be aware of?

She summons balls of ether. You fire them with the middlemost skill.
Holding them and not firing them gives a passive buff to allies and/or a passive debuff to enemies. Firing them does different types of damage and charges her super move.
So basically, hold on to one or two skills you like the buffs for, then keep summoning and firing the rest.
Certain skills can only be used when her ultimate attack is either nearly charged or fully charged.

Give her a crit build and then link the heal on crit skill from Dunban. This makes it so that she gets healed from the crits she constantly does and ends up being a decent tank while doing tons of damage

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I’m still at Valak, about to head to Sword Valley. Once i got Dunban she basically got dropped to bench.

the 5-10% you lose is negligible compared to the gains you make when putting other gems on your weapon

I'm playing Definitive Edition for the first time.
110-ish hours in. Finishing up quests in post-game. I need the last skill trees for two of the characters as well.
I think I'm finished soon.
It was a breddy gud game. Mite start NG+ with the Jap dub to see how it is.

>Dont get careless!
>everyone dont get careless!
>remember not to get careless!
>careless? anyone? no?

what the fuck is up with the poorly written banter in this game?

play in dub, and youre stuck with listening to britbongs with terrible lines
play in sub and youre stuck with listening to jap gibberish

voice acting in games was a mistake

Losing 5-10% in exchange for not wasting weapon slots on more important stats is worth it.

I think my autism might prevent me from it. Haste, double attack and then one more depending on my playstyle will be fine if they're rank VI perfect gems.

>Blind leaps of faith on a one in a million shot aren't good reasons to do things
You say that but the whole revenge for Fiora situation was also a blind leap of faith on a one in a million shot.

>just because we as the audience know the MC is the MC so everything will work out.
Well that backfired.

still looks blurry, did the resolution still not get uncapped?

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>play in sub and youre stuck with listening to jap gibberish
If only there were some arcane arts to help you learn to understand the gibberish.

If you hate the banter than you must be a teenager, retarded, and a 2fag!

A source of infinite energy sounds an awful lot like what a true god is.

haste buff is impossible to have on armor normally which makes it extra valuable since you can put other shit on the weapon which is even more limited

No Monkey's paws here, Jena's voice is as cute as ever.
youtube.com/watch?v=4vXUcUCuycc

I guess?

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>a blind leap of faith on a one in a million shot.
They had someone who could wield the Monado with no drawbacks like Dunban and could also see the future. I don't think you know what leap of faith means.

then turn the voices off

there's a voice volume in the options

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oi

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Spear Break+Starlight Kick can force topple without needing to break the enemy first. Earth applies a physical defense buff so stack two of those if something is killing you before you kill it.

okay bitch.

when will newfags realize nobody actually reads these giant walls of greentext

So I've been stuck in Makna Forest for the past few days. I don't want to progress because I know soon I'll get to prison island and the game will stop being perfect.

>Subtitles don't match the dialogue
Why was this so prolific in FC?

While not as good as Ice and Earth, Summon Blaze is still another DoT you can stack alongside the other two. Spear Break -> Starlight Kick is a free forced topple so it's not bad to have them. Mind Blast removes auras and seals arts while doing nice damage so no reason not to have it for when you hit element burst mode

It was rushed. Same reason the voice acting is so much worse.

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Fuck off, cunt.

How do i grind Affinity? Takes an awful lot of time through battle only. Also why do i have so little heart-to-heart despite seeing a lot of them in the world?