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Was Rinoa really Ultimecia?

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Yes, it's the only way to save this piece of shit story. The Squall's Dead theory is fucking dog shit though.

When the hecc was that ever implied
Rinoa is just Rinoa
If you have any reasons why she would ever be Ultimecia pls enlighten me

She should be but Square-Enix is too retarded to know a good idea when they see it, so it's not canon.

Ultimecia was actually Quistis the whole time.

People were just doing their best to find some significance to her, but the truth is she is really just a literally who final boss like Necron.

Rinoa is a sorceress. Ultimecia is a sorcereress.

After Squall rescues Rinoa during the Battle of the Gardens they land outside Galbadia Garden and Rinoa explains she has Squall's ring, which leads to her asking what the lion on it is called. A naming screen comes up and the player is prompted to name the lion, the default being "Griever". Ultimecia summons Griever in the final battle.

It's consistent with the themes of the game and fills plot holes.

Otherwise Ultimecia is just fucking Rita Repulsa.

Wasn't her moves/weapons named after Rinoa's weapons in a later Dissidia game?

Really, in the alignment points of narrative and common sense, no. In the japanese bullshit of TWEESTS and edge that doesn't make any goddam fucking sense why do they keep doing it, yes.

Don't ask questions, don't use logic, don't try to understand it. It is what it is and bitching about it won't change that fact.

>Wasn't her moves/weapons named after Rinoa's weapons in a later Dissidia game?

That and she summons fucking Griever; a name Squall only shared with Rinoa. So unless Ultimecia was able to mind-share with possessed Rinoa _and_ managed to retain that one particular detail; _and_ decided to use it to mind-fuck with Squall and co. during their final battle, ... she's fucking Rinoa.

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Probably the only reason Squenix doesn't come out and make it formal, is waifu-pandering towards the deluded simps that want to get in Rinoa's panties.

Being able to read the hearts of men is something all witches do in fantasy, but when it's FF8 it's somehow different amd this argument is always brought up.

I get that they're both sorceresses, but what does Griever have to do with making Rinoa Ultimecia
And what plot holes does it fill?
The story was fairly well wrapped up at the end in my opinion
The only thing that bothers me a little is the scene where Ultimecia approaches Edea at the end, like does this doom them to continue repeating the same struggle continuously?

except the sorceress that inherits ultimecia's power is young edea, not rinoa

And ultimately, Edea gives up her power to Rinoa

If rinoa is ultimecia why did ultimecia try and sacrifice rinoa to the lizards during the parade?

No

No.

she lost most of her memory because of time and GFs

Nigger, she Draws Griever from Squall's mind during the final battle. Have you ever bothered to Scan it during the fight? R=U always has been false.

Sorceresses have the same life expectancy as regular humans. Ultimecia is at least "generations" away from Squall's time.

This makes sense. Squall got her all fucked up.

no they don't, they live much longer than humans

also, why is adel a man? was it ever explained?

Adel is woman just roided. They cover up her nips so despite looking like male pecs those are female tits.

No, the Ultimania specifically states they have standard human lifespans but can't die until they pass on their powers, which they will be desperate to do when they reach that stage.

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yes, nothing else makes sense

>Otherwise Ultimecia is just fucking Rita Repulsa.

AFTER TEN THOUSAND YEARS I'M FREE!

They literally bend time and space.

Ultimecia is the only one with powers over time. You also can't argue against the official Ultimania because it doesn't support your pants-on-head retarded theory. Even Adel is looking for a successor during the Laguna flashbacks so she can find peace.

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Ultimecia doesn't really have powers over time. She is using a machine to affect events in the past.

what if you burn or chop up a sorceress? would they still not die?

and why wouldn't esthar shoot adel out in space instead of keeping xer next to earth?

So how far along are those mods that were supposed to fix the "remaster"?

Fpbp every time

What exactly needs to be fixed?

I can hear the music now...

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God i wanna fuck fujin so bad

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Yes

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How about a hot take: I LOVE FFVII's music it's fucking kino but I think FFVIII's music is way better.

Rinoa was one thing and one thing only: A slut for any man with a gunblade

Would she switch teams for Lightning?

No she wasn't. But I always liked the concept.