So you're telling me that this fucking guy a veteran survivor who soloed an entire faction, almost killed the fireflies all by himself, Survived a basement full of bloaters and clickers in part 1. All of a sudden became a brainlet amateur in part 2 trusting random unknown survivors and letting them take him to their base and not expecting to get killed? Its almost as if druckmann forgot about joels character and retconned him in part 2.
So you're telling me that this fucking guy a veteran survivor who soloed an entire faction...
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shit writing
well yeah that's why they call it bad writing
Apparently some reviewers justify it by going with he became filled with hubris, at his stage in life. No joke.
It's called shit writing and characters making choices in a vacuum.
Druckmann needed scene to play out and the only way it would is by Joel becoming temporary retarded so he wrote it that way.
user you can just magically know the girl had a shotgun that would blow your leg off.
Any excuse to get rid of the only white male in the game (excluding Abby)
Cuckmann's agenda is so obvious
That's not even the worst writing. Imagine thinking anybody in a post apocalyptic world gives a fuck about trannies and bigots. Repopulate the planet and ensure mankind survives? Nah man fuck that, this guys a bigot and this kid wants to be a different gender, that's what matters.
I'd say it's almost as if the entirety of the first game was discarded just to tell some different story that could've been with different characters in a different game.
The first game you give a shit about Joel. You play as him in the tutorial, not Ellie. You care about Ellie because you care about Joel and what he went through as everything was just starting. Ellie has her moments, but the story is Joel's.
The sequel completely shits on his character and everything about the first game that mattered.
This game is like a window into the schizophrenic, AIDs-riddled mind of the modern leftist.
They do not live in the real world.
They don't ever try to explain why he jumps in to the middle of a giant horde to save one person he doesn't even know.
he white male so he had to go, quick, otherwise Anita would not let Druckman lick her boots
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't someone say Neil did the mocap for the character who spit on Joel after he was killed?
Something like it wasn't his character, but he did the mocap just for that scene or something.
Or was that just misinformation?
You just don't understand
The circle of violence dude
Like the Trojans bro
They are just like us
They are people
Hector is their here
You don't understand bro
Achiles
Ellie is Achiles
The forgiveness bro
The Godfather 2
Michael bro
He lost everything
An empire of dust
Ellie is Michael bro
Violence is bad
You just don't understand
It's too deep for you
nah it's just a joke, the dude just looks like cuckmann
Amy Hennig wrote joel, having a strong white man goes against everything Cuckman believes in.
Straley would have never let Cuckmann get away with all this shit. Some of it maybe, but he would reel him in as he did in the original.
I can tell you don't know a thing about this guy. He goes in a room with a bunch of guys clearly dangerous since they survived the previous encounter with infected and doesn't expect them to possibly have ulterior motives?
He runs over a guy looked like he was wounded with a car in the first game but 4 years later a group of people you just met in a dark room are cool?
All the ideologies would be thrown out of the window when encountering psycho gangs
He is literally a completley different character in this game self so it is expected that he would so something so fucking stupid. Fuck this fan made spin off game.
Thing is, I can understand what the story is trying to go for, sorta.
I can appreciate a revenge story, and one ending in tragedy in that way is fine. Protag losing it all in a blind rage can sometimes make for a good story.
I'd be okay with Joel dying if it was done in a different way. I can be okay with being forced to play his killer and see their side of things, again, if it were done in a different way.
What I'm not okay with is real world politics being hamfisted into a post apocalyptic world. I can't accept how progressive tribalism could be maintained in a world that bleak and full of struggle.
Why are people pretending to like the first game to shit on this new one?
The first one was also bad.
>The first one was also bad
That's an opinion.
I liked the first one well enough. It wasn't fucking amazing or anything, but I don't regret playing it.
It's like Walking Dead writing. It's moronic bullshit with no coherency at all because that's not the goal.
The first game was overrated as fuck. It was honestly a bad game. But Joel's writing in the first game is not the same as his in the 2nd game. Those of us pointing this out aren't necessarily saying that the first game was a good game.
We're basically just saying "They arbitrarily turned Joel into a retard".
The first one was good, fuck off parrot
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In 1 they made it part of his character that he has post apocalyptic street knowledge and can see through traps. Drunkmann is a hack
Let's say Joel has to die by Abby's hands. No question about it.
How do you do it in a realistic way that still honors the original character?
A lot of retards with shit taste genuinely enjoyed it.
set the game further in the future and have joel be sick and bedridden. would actually parallel better with the end of the game when abby is sick and dying too
>Y-You're a parrot, not me, the person claiming the game with 200 GOTY awards is good
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The first game was a shit TPS with mediocre crafting mechanics that ended up aging like shit visually with a story one could find in even a B-Grade thriller film.
inFamous 2 was the better PS3 exclusive.
We know who plays Manny
Its not Druckmann, hus actor just looks like him but Mexican
Joel didn't really have a choice
They were near the top of a fucking mountain
Going back to Jackson was a massive risk because of all the infected that could've been there
That said, revealing his name was dumb