>probably the best male character in videogames since 2013
>strong, stoic, father figure, perfect for this setting
>together with Ellie an iconic duo of friendship and hope for a decadent humanity
>decides to massacre him like a beast after the first two hours of the sequel into an anti-climatic and definitely forced circumstance
It's like Druckman wanted to fail miserably and make all fans of this game hate him on purpose.
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That's not Arthur Morgan.
The only reason normies liked the first game is because ellen page lookalike.
>probably the best male character in videogames since 2013
Literally name one.
clint eastwood ripoff imo
joel was a terrorist and deserved to die
Based
Reminder that Druckmann is still seething internally that he couldn't beat Rockstar
Joel wasn't ever memorable. He was a vessel for a a plot. The only memorable thing he did was rescue Ellie, which was the wrong choice, and he suffered the consequences of this exact action
Sekiro
None of the Clint's western characters ever talked that much or were as of a simpleton as Arthur was.
no
fuck off cuckmann
>just now learning that leftism only exists to corrupt
I guess everybody come around some time
>Druckman fired the non-feminist female head writer
>replaced her with a hyper feminist female writer for the dlc onward
Pottery
>Selfish asshole
>Literally prevents the world from being rebuild in time
>Was delusional beyond hope
>Muh good male figure
Is this bait
>probably the best male character
No
In what way?
Beyond being cowboys, nothing Clint has ever done is similar in character or plot.
>which was the wrong choice
It wasn't.
>Joel wasn't ever memorable. He was a vessel for a a plot. The only memorable thing he did was rescue Ellie, which was the wrong choice
Are you retarded?
>Abby goes after revenge, gets it
>spares ellie's life
>Ellie goes on her own path of revenge, kills every person in her way
>spares nobody
>Abby gets revenge on her friends by killing jesse and..wait yeah just jesse
>spares ellie's life AGAIN
>Ellie heads off again to kill abby
>finally spares her only for it to be unrewarding
Never gave a shit about Joel, it was just a situation most men can emphasize with. But Everyones a brutal murderer in this world I dont know why people are picking teams. The abby bitch was a blood thirsty Scar murderer, but she redeems herself by helping those kids, sacraficing her entire WLF colony in the process.
The cure wasn't guaranteed to work dumbass, druckman reconned this in part 2 stop talking for Jewish tricks retard
>Literally prevents the world from being rebuild in time
It's quite clear the world is just fucked and no vaccine will fix human nature, they'll still be fuckwits trying to kill one another
YOU'VE JUST BEEN JEWED
both the right and left are equally fucking stupid, what a stupid fucking political system where you're forced to vote for the lesser of the two evils.
just pick between forced diversity and political correctness to the point of absurdity or censorship in vidya/banning games because it goes against family values.
>Chance of saving the goddamn planet
>But it wasn't guaranteed to work
Neither was polio vaccine you retard
>Chance of saving the goddamn planet
debatable. the firefly's experiments were haphazard and mostly fatal.
Zig Forums before part 2 "joel is a monster"
Zig Forums after part 2 "joel was the best white male character ever created"
you cant be serious
How come everybody who has this idea know nothing about politics?
They're getting programmed by ((())), dont take easily malleable people seriously.
Only retards thought Joel was in the wrong.
Are you?
individualism is how we got into the current societal mess
It's easy to get mad at stories you purposefully misrepresent
Kiryu and Majima
>doctor murder dozens of children and makes literally zero progress towards curing a fucking parasitic fungal infection
>and even if killing Ellie would have led to a cure, the Fireflies are incompetent anarchist shitbags that actively work against the stabilization of society so they would have either kept the cure for themselves in order to consolidate their own power or -more likely- would have fucked it all up somehow and lost the cure so that nobody could benefit
It's not bait, you're just retarded.
If I were to write TLOU2 I would make Ellie the one who kills Joel
>individualism
>buying into a socio-political thought process to the point that anything that doesn't conform to it makes you have a panic attack
All the male party members in DQXI
Remind me again how many vaccines exist for fungal infections.
>probably the best male character in videogames since 2013
You're lucky Asura was around in 2012 user.
your entire country is a laughing stock right now, so I have no idea where you get the idea that the right side is better. At least the US was respected with your last president, now it's just a circus on fire.
I don't even give a shit about a cure. The simple fact is Marlene entered into a contract with Joel to transport Ellie for a sum agreed upon by both parties. He delivered her, but the Fireflies violated the NAP when they refused to pay him for crossing the whole damn country with Ellie. Their lives were forfeit in return and Joel was simply reclaiming merchandise that was rightfully his.
>tfw i'll not play tlou2
Yeah if you’re complete faggot
Yes. Cope harder
Thanks for admitting you're just another foreign retard that feels compelled to yap about something he doesn't understand.
>Hey dude just give me your pseudo-daughter to cut open
>Yea I've killed a bunch of other kids with no results, but it'll work this time I swear, I promise a breakthrough will happen this time.
Imagine thinking Joel was wrong for icing that fucker.
>MUH HOPE
Fuck you. Humanity is fucked and perhaps doubly so because of Joel's selfish choice in the first game. I enjoy seeing you faggots seethe over bad things happening to bad people.
>>probably the best male character in videogames since 2013
No, eat shit
You missed the point of Joel's character if you ever thought he cared about a cure. If that cure was 100% guaranteed he would do the exact same thing. He wasn't leaving without Ellie no matter what.
>If that cure was 100% guaranteed he would do the exact same thing.
If.
But it wasn't, and in the context presented he was fully justified in doing what he may or may not have wanted to do anyway.
>implying a vaccine could be manufactured AND distributed in a zombie apocalypse with any semblance of society and order long gone
Vergil