Were you on Zig Forums in the 2000s?
What's changed?
Were you on Zig Forums in the 2000s?
What's changed?
I started in 2011.
Nothing much has changed except it's much more political, and the memes have gotten more complex (from stuff like ISHYGDDT, Doge, etc.)
2006
more politics, more moderation (believe it or not). less ponies, less "does anyone else remember my dumb fucking game" since the retro board was introduced.
thats all really. everything else is the same
Leftists. Cry baby little vagina boy butt hurt leftists.
I disagree. Everything has changed. Threads that stay alive are ONLY political baiting or paid marketting from big companies. Back in 2009~12 the board was filled with actual people hating on each other, playing vidya together and posting stupid shit. There's no space for stupid shit in here anymore, no place to play vidya together, no place to actually discuss games.
Now the most vidya threads we get are franchise comparisons, probably initiated by marketers.
started in 2009
really revved up on both sides in about 2014 then hit it's peak in 2016. people crying about the use of stuff like the N word wasn't a thing before then really
I was around for a bit after the first habbo raids but didn't stick around long.
I don't remember much but the memes were at least trying to be more varied instead of being literal reddit tier "exact same meme as someone posted 2 minutes ago".
We used to talk about video games instead of race and gender.
yep, and i was on SA before that. i could go on for an hour about what's fucking changed but i'll summarize it down to 3 main bullet points here
-entire original staff has been replaced, we are full ship of theseus over here
-normalfags are everywhere, something that used to be permabanned after 1 warning post telling you to lurk, back when the staff could type anything they want for a ban reason
-the new staff prevent the userbase from self moderating and hazing unwanted people off the site (furfags, normalfags, people who aren't lolicons, etc.) with loli, gore, etc. and actually enforce the fucking rules page, which was created as a joke to make fun of normalfag forums who restrict what content people can post with heavy handed rules, the only rule that mattered was "don't post things illegal in the USA like CP" just so Zig Forums wouldn't get shut down, anything else was fair game and there was absolutely no requirement to stay on topic on any board, because as moot said multiple times, the best threads on Zig Forums are always offtopic threads far away from the boards they should be on.
Combine those three things and you get what we have today.
shit like race and gender diversity wasn't really in vidya back then, it's relatively new. remember all the anita sarkeesian threads? i forget what year that was, 2012 maybe? that was the beginning of all this shit
desu all the political threads and race mixing posts stem from normalfag invasion
Why the fuck would anybody do "paid marketing" on Zig Forums when Zig Forums hates games. Why do you think, in the age of fanboyism when people voluntarily defend corporations as a hobby, that everybody who makes a thread for a game you dislike is a shill?
There have always been black people and women in video games.
No one created over 9000 threads to talk about how it's part of a communist plot back then though.
Can you imagine what a shitshow FF7 would have been if it came out today?
>YOU HAVE TO PLAY AS A BLACK GUY
>THEY FORCE YOU TO DRESS IN WOMEN'S CLOTHES
>THE FEMALE CHARACTERS ARE ALL USED GOOD
>when Zig Forums hates games
haha xD epic meme!!!
a lot of people here actually like videogames and do play them, probably even the vast majority. "Zig Forums hates games" is just a meme because this website is so critical on them. the amount of shills is blown out of proportion, but it is definitely a thing and always has been, and always will be as long as this website has a lot of traction
not really, i'm frankly tired of the "Zig Forums was never racist it was just ironic" narrative. Zig Forums was racist and posted plenty of anti negro and anti jew stuff before even habbo hotel. i remember Zig Forums screaming about jews in fucking 2006 when horse armor for oblivion came out. while you are right and the massive normalfag invasion from the 2016 election certainly INCREASED the amount of these posts, they were always around since the original days anyway. before /new/ and Zig Forums there was /z/, an invisible board you had to know the URL to access, which was full of racially charged comics (like other a. wyatt mann stuff besides the famous BIX NOOD for example)
are you really going to be this intellectually dishonest? it's far more prevalent in games today and it feels forced in some circumstances, and if you pretend like "lol its always been that way" then i'm not even gonna bother responding to you
what i really meant was all the "anti racist" and blacked posting etc is from normies
I started in 2013 for memes and laughs. Its just wojaks/hating sjws/jews/women now for nothing but a quick (you).
2012 gang reporting in. I started lurking right when the MassEffect 3 debacle happened. Back then everyone said the board was much better in 2008, but I really miss 2011 - 2014 era Zig Forums. After 2015/2016 this place really went to shit and lost a lot of it's magic. Maybe I'm just getting old, but I preferred "master ruseman" over endless wojak edits.
Back then, people weren't up their own ass about politics 24/7, most we had was making fun of some random Conservative or Soccer Mom once in a blue moon who complained about vidya.
There is literally no difference, with the sole exception that everyone pays attention. Capital G "Gamers" use it as a reason to hate a game, and soulless corporations use it for adverting, but video games are exactly the same.
You have no argument except for your feelings.
We've been shitting on SJWs way before it was cool. In fact, Zig Forums is where I first heard that term.
oh i see, well you are definitely right on that one. anyone who was actually around during the old days doesnt give a fuck about racism, which is why it's funny when the Zig Forums staff ban people for it, on a website known as "the asshole of the internet" for 17 years now.
>most we had was making fun of some random Conservative or Soccer Mom
Nice LARP, i guess you weren't hear for when anita sarkeesian debacle came about? definitely the biggest political sperg out Zig Forums ever had, and the website was unanimously against her. if that doesn't ring a bell then you're actually new. idk why people make shit up to make it seem like Zig Forums has always been antifa
In the old days, calling someone a nigger on the internet was basically saying hello.
Yeah because if people actually talk about games wanna-be jannies come out of the woodwork and tell you to go to /vg/.
>people weren't up their own ass about politics 24/7
wanna know how i know you're a newfag?
lol whatever dude, you're right. WW2 games always had black women nazis and soldiers and all that jazz.
A lot more weebs and animeposters.
It really went into overdrive around 2018.
That's not a blunt.
Literally the 2nd Metal of Honor game, released in 2000, you play as a female character.
no games
the problem is not leftists, its any acknowledgement of politics of any kind.
that was gay nerd shit back then
I remember not getting banned for posting porn
I think I started browsing in 2006, I was on ytmnd before I came to Zig Forums. Threads were a lot better back in the day, memes were created and died in the same thread and sure as fuck weren't ran into the god damn ground like they are now. Zig Forums past 2012 like it's been stuck in permanent summer mode for so long that people don't even complain about summer anymore.
that isn't the same as making WW1 and WW2 games that have more than 1 black woman soldiers on both sides
also what you posted is an exception to the rule, just because it has happened in the past does not mean that it was as common as it is today. it's actually like saying interracial marriages have always happened, so to say they happen more often in 2020 isn't true!!! like seriously
I metastasized from Zig Forums too late for harmony but just before babby. Must've been late February, early March 2010. The biggest change to me is that people wished on a goddamn monkey paw for Zig Forums to get more on topic. We may no longer have the reputation of the video game board that doesn't talk about video games, but much of the conversation is now dominated by the context of social and political implications.
People actually take the politics seriously now. Back in the day most people here just liked to shit on whoever was in power when they did something dumb for shits 'n giggles, now we've got people where it's their goddamn life mission to tell everyone how important their political outlook is
It's fucking absurd that I miss the 2012 version of Zig Forums: Zig Forums 2.0
>JUST BECAUSE THINGS HAPPENED DOESN'T MEAN THE HAPPENED
Fuck off.
I'm not even the guy you were talking to. And this board has been insufferable since at least 2015.
I'm the 2012 cancer you're talking about and even I don't recognize this board even more.
more absolute intellectual dishonesty
you lose :P
I got banned last week for making a post about THE 6 MILLION
this, all they do is preach agenda and then cry you're some form of bigot or Zig Forums if you say anything. That and you get the hipsters who bash classic games just to larp as some intellectual for their contrarian view.
>I'm not even the guy you were talking to
if only newfags like you would lurk moar and learn board culture then
moving goal posts around eh? You're the ones that spam "oh bigots btfo!" whenever there is a girl in a game that has a tan. Then endlessly spam every over the top political agenda in a game but then copy/paste buzzwords as your "counter point"
I remember when I never ever got banned for years and starting a few years ago I see the ban message almost every few posts. So fuckin sad and some gook mods are definitely shilling for nintendo because you can't say anything about how shit they are without getting banned.
Yes. I remember a lot of WoW, Runescape and Half Life being discussed. Halo and COD were always ridiculed. Lots of generals, which was before /vg/ existed. “PS3 has no games” and the 360 RROD were big. Wii/dildo jokes. A lot of dumb macros. Also, believe it or not, ton of emoticon usage like > _ > it was less political, too. Not a lot of Nintendo shit as opposed to now.
Like I said, been here since 2012, which is probably longer than 90% of the cancer on this board right now. People who were 10 when I started lurking are now allowed to post here.
2008. Not really, aside from still having a few games that got banished to other boards.
yup, it was always an afterthought in games, now it's the core focus of western games. Of course leftists will cry victory over it, and cry victim when others get annoyed.
or they'll strawman in all caps, a display of their rage
is this projection I'm seeing?
Zig Forums was way more fucking normal and it didn't spill into every other board, including Zig Forums.
Lots of Notch threads.
Lots of video game threads without the need for separating shit into other boards like /vg/ and /vp/. When Zig Forums spilled over, Zig Forums took the worst of it and Zig Forums was a refuge which is why shit had to get spliced.
Mugen was still cool. Lots of talking about LAN parties and shit. BAWLS.
There was a lot less samefagging. It was always a thing but it's REALLY bad now
>Zig Forumsniggers notice shit they didn't notice just 6 years ago
>when the 90s was full of sjw shit
>the early 2000s was full of sjw shit
>no cringey post every day about blacks in a game because real Zig Forumsfags hated video games and thought they where all degenerate
No, what happened was REDDIT flooded in.
>zoomers just discovered leftist
Oh no no no no AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This board needs IDs and flags.
>>the early 2000s was full of sjw shit
Nice revisionism.
I was a 4 year old living in iceland and playing perfect dark and banjo tooie in 2000
I wouldnt start coming on Zig Forums for 7 years
To be fair, the Summer Zig Forums claim died because moot gave us data to prove there was no massive influx of kids.
>Core focus
>Zig Forums and reddit will literally spend dozens of hours scouring a game for a single line of dialoge, or a single picture that indicates a character is LGBT, and use that to mass downvote the game
Or worse
>Zig Forums and reddit will read every single twitter post by every single person on the development team to find an instance where the developer or write expressed they liked something they don't like (like the new star wars or whatever) and use that to mass downvote the game
Stricter moderation, less fun-posting, more agenda-driven bullshit.
the entire point is that it's far more prevalent now, pre 2012ish it was only outliers. of course you begin to notice something when it's getting shoved down your gullet
That's the status quo btw. in case I haven't made it clear enough.
>more prevalent now
There's literally no way to measure that.
You can provide an infinite number of examples of pre-2012 examples, and people will call them "outliers" No amount of evidence will ever overturn their feelings.
Oh I'm sorry you stupid faggot, here is proof. You will never post counter evidence. The fact remains, real Zig Forumsfags hated this shit decades ago. You zoomer redditors make apologies for your childhood even though that was zogged too.
If you reply I'll only post more proof to btfo you stupid niggers.
We just called them pussies back then
Briefly had IDs. I often wonder why they got rid of them.
>there's no way to measure interracial marriage being more prevalent now, if i point to historical examples from the 1800s you'll just call it an outlier becuz of your FEEFEES!!!
t. you
it's obvious to anyone who isn't legally blind