Are there any video games that truly cross over to the realm of art without being pretentious?

Are there any video games that truly cross over to the realm of art without being pretentious?

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Tetris

No.

The original SoTC. Where is this location though? I don't recognize it.

Shadow of the colossus was one of them, Okami probably is to, a whole game with a watercolor artstyle was pretty neat at the time.

firstly, define pretension in vidya

Killer7

I forgot for which colossus number it was but if i remember right thats the way to get to the one that looks like a 'lobster' or a lizard and crawls on the wall and spits health-draining clouds at you.

>cross over to the realm of art
You say that like art means good or something. Video games are already art.

Return of the Obra Dinn and The Talos Principle, for different reasons. I don't get why videogames try desperately to mimic movies and books instead of banking on interactivity, which is pretty much their exclusive trait and biggest strenght.

TLOU2

Minecraft.

Street Fighter 2, but just the first one, the World Warrior
At the time it was a commercial product but now, I genuinely feel that a single SF2 arcade cabinet is a playable art piece.
I specifically say WW because it had a lot of "seamless" aspects to it, like how the trees in Sagat's stage and the fence in Zangief's stage would sometimes obscure the fighters in the foreground, and how it goes from match to match in such fast succession, and can instantly switch between competitive multi-player and single player experiences. Combine that with the multiple realizability of have 8 characters potentially be the protagonist of the story along with the more underlying themes of nationalism vs globalism and you've got a genuine piece of art that doesn't even know it's art

Also iirc this was the only game that listed Gief's stage as USSR and not Russia which is soul as fuck

Bloodborne
Silent Hill 1 and 2
Dark Souls 1 for world design alone

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this one 50-minute League match I had at 2am on a school night 6 years ago

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All of those have amazing atmosphere. Only one has amazing gameplay to go with it. Dark Souls 1

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In a weird way, I agree with you.
based

Ya, Fate Grand Order

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But the realm of art itself is pretentious.

Journey. Unironically the first real strand game.

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The Abbey of Crime.

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Bioshock

I think my favorite part about dark souls is how it embraces the fact that it's a game, weaving the mechanics of dying over and over into the lore and having the "story" be something completely optional that needs to be uncovered by the player.

Kino
The best part is when it gets so long you kind of stop caring about winning or losing and just play

Loom.

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Spbp

all of them.

Fucking based.

fuck that collosus

>Dark Souls 1 gameplay over Bloodborne
Pleb

Dwarf Fortress

Planescape: Torment
Morrowind
Bloodborne
Dark Souls
Shadow Tower
Pathologic
The Void
Deus Ex
Nier
Okami
Shadow of the Colossus
Bayonetta
Devil May Cry
Metal Gear Solid
Sekiro
Bloodlines
KOTOR II
Disco Elysium

>pretentious
I fucking hate this buzzword. Gets thrown around so much, basically means "thoughtful thing I don't understand/don't like" here nowadays, absolutely kills all discussion

ps2 and 3 versions of SotC and Ico do.

Last Guardian does not.

Wait this looks/sounds cool. Is the free remake on steam the same thing?

Shadow of the Colossus
Flower

Zeldafags gonna fag: BotW and MM

also this

the talos principle

the cradle

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Your answer is here OP

Watch the cinematic movies on youtube

Define art, then define what constitutes being pretentious and then go fuck yourself.