The most cunning, careful, not stupid character that exists

gaming died long ago, dummy
we're just hanging out with the body now

Ok boomer

you'll grow up someday too

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this really keeps getting me. it's staggering how stupid they made him

>tlou1 joel
>robs and kills dozens, crosses moral lines constantly, ornery and crabby bastard, paranoid and murderous beyond belief
>refuses to give even basic information about himself for his own protection

>tlou2 joel
>howdy bardner :DDD im jobel :DDDD this my broder dommy :DDD
>you loog like youve heard of me bardner :DDD ??

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ITT: people that never played the first game or second game

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You could make the argument that living 4 years in Jacksonville made him complacent, but it's still inexcusable, shitty writing.

>father son duo is the same as an adult implying there's more adults in this location.
retard
either way though the story for 2 was shit for many reasons. Biggest reason is that its dragged out too long. Could've ended it multiple times or even gone with the route of ellie leaving with abby from slave island and potentially creating a raiding group to slowly take over the slave island to make as a base. Then use the base as a base of operations to then try and find someone who can make the cure once again.

but instead we got cant play guitar and muh lesbo gone :(.

Its a shit ending and the first option would've been better desu. making ellie create some form of catharsis by making her believe there's some more hope out there for her to save people's lives through some vaccine would've been a better ending. In fact it'd even pave a way for an immune abby sequel. But instead the plot is more or less dead.

>JOEL WOULD NEVER TRUST PEOPLE
>umm this example doesn't count because I'm moving the goalpost so I can still win the argument

stab yourself repeatedly in the neck

i thought they way they set it up made sense.
They really made Tommy and Joel look like cucks the entire game tho

Lot of really passionate tlou fans on Zig Forums all of a sudden. Pretty much every thread is filled with fan fiction

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but its the truth though. a group traveling with a kid usually arent cutthroats. A roaming group of adults are more likely to be cut throat.

either way tho the ending was dogshit.

dont be too quick to judge, user. the game's writing was fanfiction-tier as well./spoiler]

It all doesn't matter theres a tranny in it so its jewish propaganda therefore its shit.

Reminded me of this.

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gaming has been dead for nearly 20 years, dumdum.

What's the context in the second game?
Because in the first game they are trapped in a city with bandits everywhere, that are also targeting the guy and his brother, so at most he has an incentive to work together to get out. Also Joel is extremely distant with the black dude and never really trusts him. Hell Joel constantly thinks the black dude is either one of the bandits or straight up doesn't trust him

>Literally built like the terminator
>systematically kills anyone with the same name as her target like the terminator

hmmm

>>the most cunning, careful, not stupid character that exists
He's really none of those things.

Joel would have left her inside her gates and left.
They even fucking cleared the clickers at the gates, so Joel and Tommy could have just left right away.

>>the most cunning, careful, not stupid
character that exists
Is that why Seth stole is guns
>>find some random girl surrounded by clickers
While on patrol
>>save her
Yes
>>so where you from? I'm Joel.
I'm Tommy this is my brother Joel
>>I'm Abby. Me and my friends are over in this house over here. Wanna come chill?
With a Blizzard ,Infected everywhere and being hours away from home
>>Wait, she has a bunch of friends and they are holding out in an area near our town, they are armed, I don't know any of them, I've scouted this ares thousands of times, that seems off
Didn't They save a Family near their town and Joel traded for Coffee from a traveler

Ok faggot.

No, she learned that Tommy was related to Joel from previous Fireflies that were found at the wolves' gate

They were surrounded by infected and a blizzard came in

Read it as a punishment for his character growth in 1. Half the point was that over the course of the game, Joel learns to let his guard down and trust and love people again. He had the obvious relationship with Ellie, reconciled with his brother (they were at each other's throats in the first game after their falling out), and became a helpful and important member of a community.

Shame the very first person they show interact with the new more loving Joel clubs him to death with no conversation.