not the best example, but still, tell me Zig Forums, does fan service always reign supreme when given the chance?
Not the best example, but still, tell me Zig Forums, does fan service always reign supreme when given the chance?
Nier is fun to play
how is nier too depressing? The main characters all survive in the end
>not getting the true ending
Just rename this board to Zig Forums - Twitter Screencaps
nier has actual gameplay
Was Kaine even in Automata? I didn't play it
Because it's only normies who find games too violent or depressing. Who would have thought, eople who actually play games like games
Everyone has an existential crisis in trying to find meaning in their lives.
Not so much the end as it is the events in the course of the games
They're nothing alike.
Twitter is so fucking stupid.
Yes.
I dont remember Automata killing characters with a snuff video aesthetics
TLOU2 is political propaganda and explicit tranny sex pandering.
NieR Automata was not and also did not feature Kaine as she was in the first game but of course a well researched individual like that obviously knew that I'm assuming.
That's like saying I love how man of steel was criticized for being "too dark" while batman begins was praised for doing THE EXACT SAME STUFF and was praised heavily.
Because Automata's story and message is better conveyed, TLOU2's message was so hamfisted that the whole setting, as well as the worldbuilding all fail because of its forced message of "REVENGE EVIL"
>nier automata has gratuitous human violence
I wished people who don't play games would shut up
nier has actual gameplay and good music also everyone gets a good ending
But that's the hopeful message of the game.
That it's up to you what you make of your life. Even if you are trapped in a nihilistic cycle, you should try.
Not a single human is harmed in Automata.
Automata is actually well structured, unlike that other turd.
Automata actually has something more to say than repeating "revenge bad" for 20 hours
See, this is my issue with the criticisms towards The Last of Us 2. Niel Druckmann is going to walk away from this thinking "I guess killing Joel was too daring and controversial for the modern gamer" when that's not the issue. The issue is that this game represents the absolute worst trends. It's preachy, it's pretentious, it's a walking simulator; it was clearly designed to be a game that "talks down to cis white dudes" if you know what I mean.
Say what you will about Nier Automata, but that game was significantly more tasteful than The Last of Us 2. For fucks sake, Nier Automata literally killed the poster character too, but that didn't have any backlash because it was handled perfectly. It wasn't shocking for the sake of being shocking.
>comparing the absolute piece of shit tlou2 to a masterpiece like nier:atomato
fucking kill yourself twitter posting scum
>THE EXACT SAME STUFF
for example?
I couldn't feel the emotions all that much because of how anime it was. But the lore and concepts got pretty deep I guess. Still won't say it was depressing compared to what the genre can really do.
they aren't wrong though
the only reason people here like nier is because this place is full of coomers
go to /vg/ and just scroll down the catalog, literally nothing but coomer shit everywhere
No. Emil remembers her, but that's it. She's long dead.
>he doesn't know
>OP thinks TLOU is DEEP
>makes surface-level judgement of Nier Automata based on MUH FANSERVICE CHARACTER.
You see, this is where Japanese devs were always better.
I get what TLOU2 was trying to do, but it did it very very poorly. NieR and NieR Automata are actually well executed.
>Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and Hamlet both have skulls in them!
>That means they're basically the same thing!
While you're right about that stuff, Joel dying and having to play as Abby really are the primary reasons the game is getting so much hate. TLOU1 is safe normalfag fuel, while TLOU2 is a subversive sequel that doesn't exist to fulfill their wishes. Even if it were done well the masses would still hate it because they want capeshit.
No one considers Nier Automata a ten out of ten masterpiece or the Schindler's List of video games.
>some twatter nazi incel buulshit
oh fuck off
cuckman sick snuff is about murdering pregnant women, it should have been X rated, its not a game, its torture porn
Not taking the bait here but I love to talk about my favorite video game (Nier).
So first of all, they are not even remotely on the same level.
Nier Automata - Twitter fag can't even spell the name right - deals with issues of what makes humans human, life/death, how to find meaning in a world without meaning / God, what makes us different from our enemies, etc. And lots of other stuff - even the subquests tell poignant, little stories.
TLOU2 is basically a 20 hour snuff porn about "Revenge is bad, okay?" and it's all super obvious and on the nose - typical for Western Devs.
Go back to redd!t you moron.
Nier wasn't a nihilistic piece of shit.
I consider n:a a masterpiece but not a 10/10 or jewish lies of video games.
>muh coomer fallacy
every time
>one game forces me to gut people the most realistic way possible that money can buy and technology allows
>not the usual video game way where the movements and animations are exaggerated or hilariously gory to lighten the tone
>on top of this the game forces you to (almost) brutally murder someone who is essentially your daughter
>there are dozens or hundreds of people who worked on that scene to make it rival real life as she is kicking and crying in your hands like a real person
>the other game has bad feels and ass so I guess it is the same
I just punched a hole in my wall. I'm in tears. I'm not joking i'm actually freaking out right now. I feel like this is the angriest i've been in my life. I'm praying right now that this last year is a dream i'll wake up from. Is there a way we can sue Naughty Dog for false advertising and maybe even vandalism of a work of art?
no arguments to be found, looks like I was right
But I feel like the creative choice to kill Joel stems from Naughty Dog's desire to "stick it to the audience". Killing a character like Joel could have had such potential, but it was squandered for the sake of making something deliberately awful.
Lots of main characters in games have died, but the backlash has never been this bad before.
>I just punched a hole in my wall. I'm in tears. I'm not joking i'm actually freaking out right now. I feel like this is the angriest i've been in my life. I'm praying right now that this last year is a dream i'll wake up from. Is there a way we can sue Naughty Dog for false advertising and maybe even vandalism of a work of art?
I really hate social media..
Nier Automata isn't misery porn. Beginning with the game wants you to empathize with literal objects who develop human feelings. The setting isn't gritty, it feels post-apocalyptic but beautiful and melancholic. Automata isn't focused on cruelty or nihilism.
this but as greentext and a basedjak reaction image
Fuck me, the soundtrack to Automata was so good. Did TLOU 2 even have any good songs?
>513601339
>muh coomers
>muh waifushitters
>abloobloobloo
you're not worth it or even a (You)
Is TLOU 2 criticized for that? I think there's way bigger criticism to make about the game
>He doesn't know
>OP Thinks REVENGE BAD is deep.
>still can't come up with argument
fucking kek
>oh no no men shouldn't be allowed to feel attraction to women
>all women should be made ugly
>also get brutally murdered - thats the way to treat them
>beauty is bad, murder is good!
>Nier
>Violent
>Cartoon levels of action where you beat up robots
>Nier Automata
>You spend 99.9% of the game fighting robots
>The encounters you have against other androids or aliens just have them suffering theatrical deaths
>Violence is in service of the story, where characters experience revelations and develop through all the battles they fight
>The Last of Us 2
>Director had to hire a movie studio to do animation because no one in the vidya industry wanted to work with them
>Studio had to watch lifeleak footage of real snuff as reference for the hyper-realistic gore in TLoU2
>Ellie and Abby both horrifically brutalize everyone they deal with, with kill/death shots that are so excessive that it makes Dead Space look tame by comparison
>Goes completely over the line all in service of a retarded plot that has no depth, no complexity, and only touches the surface level of topics that have been written about ad nauseum since before the birth of fucking Christ
Automata didn't shit all over Gestalt or Replicant. TLoU2 shit all over TLoU.
Reminder that LGBT are mental disorders
>One is a humanist tribute to philosophy, and its worse aspect is being a little pretentious but it's cute.
>The other is hate-porn from western degenerate.
Stupid comparison
this is also true
>strawmanning this hard
no retard, the point is gameplay, plot, etc are all secondary concerns to you because you have a masturbation problem
Nier does it better? Isn't that obvious?