Union guys are criminal scum, run by a syndicate boss who looks like a mafia boss

They weren’t wrong about unions though

What the Fuck are you talking about?

There is not a single SJW theme in the game, such as trannies, dangerhair, Wokism, cancel culture, etc etc. Not a single SJW theme.

There are POLITICAL THEMES, I guess if that's enough to trigger you, you need to start taking pills and not worry about which games to play.

>It was very palpably communist propaganda.
If it had been communist propaganda, I'm sure you can now tell me what communism is. You can't. Cause there was no message in the game, retard.

I was gonna buy this game but then, I saw the threads and the amount of shilling that was present in them. Then I looked up the gameplay and it's incredibly linear for an 'RPG' game.
So I went and bought Divinity Original Sin 1 instead and you know what? It's fun and actually innovative. Now I'm left wondering why this game got any attention.. then I remembered how there was no combat in this game, which meant that game journos actually got to finish this game for once.

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If the game is not SJW why did they thank literal communists who wrote books about taking over society on every single aspect, not just the economical one?

Divinity: cheesy "jokes" as writing. Exploding barrels as gameplay.
I except 10/10 from you retards for the upcoming BG3 too.
Blaqdaddy IQ audience. Reading is teh hard.

Because it makes you seethe.

For a game you're trying to shill, you sure as hell didn't understand it. I'd tell you to play it again, but I wouldn't wish that upon my enemy, much less a friend.

If I recall correctly, they thanked Marx for the ideology. They read Marx in order to represent Marxism accurately in the game. That's how it sounded like to me.

It may come as a shocker, but SJWs aren't communists. Communism is when you can't make money off of your capital, that's all. That's an economic concept.
SJWs is about destroying the white male. That's a racist fascist concept.

The fascists are mocked harder than the communists, who are fleshed out more, and their foibles seem more human as a result.

I still like the game, my only issue with it is that it tries so hard to be an idiosyncratic alternate history that it just ends up being this syncretic mess of European history, no clear analogs or reference points, the worldbuilding feels weird and incoherent as a result.

>if you don't choose communism or identitarism you're boring

Ummm.... Wait, what game are we talking about in this thread? I don't watch faggy game reveals anymore. I'm getting some bad vibes we're talking about an IP I loved growing up and I'm not liking it.

The utopian ideal of communism is a classless society. SJWs assign different levels of value into individuals and groups and demand those who they perceive to be privileged to be torn down so everything would be reduced to the lowest level for the sake of equality. It's an extrapolation of the old ideology. The economic principles are just part of it.

That doesn't fit my narrative so fuck you

Planescape.

The Last of Us Part II.

Planescape isn't DE.

There are SJW tones, Faggot is the only word censored for some reason and it's jarring and 4th wall breaking, especially when 'cunt' gets thrown around fairly often with little to no worry. Not even Nigger(I think I can recall one of the 'RACISTS' saying this for flavour) is censored so I don't understand what was so bad about Faggot.

Apart from that, the SJW tones kinda kick in with the game 4th wall shaming you if you're nationalistic/race realist. It doesn't do that for any other ideology and notably so. At least, that's how it was when I last played it. Apart from that, it never really picks a side to play for and leaves it down to the player. Everyone gets a bit of a pasting and the game is more about picking the best option for the situation even though the game seems determined to put you into a box.

> SJWs assign different levels of value into individuals and groups and
So that's incompatible with communism right there.
For Marx, society is just the sum of economic relations, and the free market decides what salary you're owed. There's no "assigning different values to different individuals or groups". This is straight out of Mein Kampf.

> The utopian ideal of communism is a classless society.
No. There are three classes: 1) Exploiter 2) Worker 3) Self-employed.
The exploiter class has to stop exploiting and start working. The other two are fine. That's all.

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Children being raped makes me seethe more yet they didn't go into the stage to rape kids. I am flattered though they thought of me.

Communism involves WAY more things than just "getting paid for the amount of time you work". You do know that, right?

And not because you took a pretty aspect out of it you get to ignore all the bad out of it. There is more to the Nazi ideology than hating jews. Communism has plenty of social aspects, specially in connection to religion, hive minds, etc.

You can thank Marxism when your 8 years old comes out as trans. Then again, that must be a plus for you since you get to rape him.

Can I side with the facists? or support them through dialogue options?

>Faggot is the only word censored for some reason
Faggot gets uncensored if you pick some ideology. It's obviously meant as a meta-joke. Which I found funny, but to each his own sense of humor.

> Apart from that, the SJW tones kinda kick in with the game 4th wall shaming you if you're nationalistic/race realist.
So you picked nationalistic and got trolled by the game.
I picked communist and got trolled by the game, leaving me with a strong impression of anti-communist vibes.
It does it to everyone, get it?

literally yes

why did everyone take them seriously when they thanked marx? I took it as a joke. it's a comedy game. one of the first ""political"" choices you can make is something like:
>we should feed the bourgeoisie to the dogs
>we should feed the proletariat to the dogs
>we should feed EVERYONE to the dogs
>maybe we shouldn't feed anyone to the dogs
and even if you pick the last option the game just calls you a fence-sitting retard. it's not propaganda, the game is just telling you to act like a dumbass to see how the characters react.
hell, the climax of the game is when you meet a gigantic psychic invisible talking mantis that secreted mind-altering pheromones that caused a senile communist grandpa to shoot several people from kilometers away. I can't fucking fathom how people think it's "communist propaganda".

I seriously suspect they created this whole intricate cosmology just so that could avoid using the real-life racial slurs.

It didn't sound like that at all.

The kind of leftist who keeps insisting that everyone else but them are right-wing (apart from some on the radical left who have always said we might as well be if we’re not going to be socialists) are the relatively new identitarian lefties. They are not liberal. They are a product of an intellectual shift which occurred in the sixties when leftist intellectuals became disillusioned with Marxism and developed the concept of postmodernism. This mode of thought saw society as a system of hierarchical power structures and argued that knowledge was actually a construct of power perpetuated by speech (discourse) which served the interests of dominant groups in society. By the nineties, this had been incorporated into several fields of scholarship like feminism, postcolonialism, queer theory and critical race theory. It had also been made more explicitly political and actionable. Concepts like “intersectionality,” “toxic masculinity” and “white fragility” became a part of social justice activism.

These lefties share some core tenets of leftism in that they want to support the most vulnerable in society, but they tend to neglect the poorest people if they lack other identity characteristics associated with disadvantage—being female, of ethnic minority or LGBT. There is little support for white, working class men and they frequently deny that straight, white men can face any disadvantages at all or speak in ways which assume this. This has almost certainly assisted the present reactionary surge to the right.

They have a highly illiberal practice of evaluating the worth of individuals by their gender, race or sexuality rather than by economic conditions. Because of the belief that power in society is constructed by language, they are also prone to authoritarian censoriousness about what language can and cannot be used and which ideas may or may not be discussed.

>Communism has plenty of social aspects, specially in connection to religion, hive minds, etc.
No. It's an economic theory. The only time Marx evoked religion is in the economic aspects, because religious institutions played a role in 19th century exploitation. They don't anymore, so it's irrelevant at this point.

Case in point, South American socialists are all religious.

And there are certainly no such things as "hive minds" in Kapital.

I don't ever talk about shit I don't know. And every time it's a wonder seeing people talk about shit they haven't the foggiest idea about.

There is literally nothing wrong with Marxism

All ideologies are relentlessly mocked. Nationalism is about bigotry, ultraliberalism (libertarianism) is about cruelty for the impoverished, communism relishes in mass murder, and moralism (centrism) doesn't act upon problems, causing their exacerbation. Trying to be neutral between and you'll get told off for being a fence-sitter.

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Can you show me some proof of that? I am always the first to doubt high school education but I never heard about your sudden "there is three clases, exploier, worker and self exmployed". Karl Marx always dealt with Rich, Middle Class and Poor. He wanted for none of those to exist, for all private property to not be yours and yadda yadda.

Never heard of this whole "Marx actually wanted classes but he just wanted to rename them". Seems like bad communism if you still have rich people and homeless people.

Really can't wait till half of all american universities go bankrupt in the fall without chinkbux, and all these retarded "graduate students" and "adjunct professors" and can finally be fulltime neets without having to pretend to learn anything.

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Centrism is objectively the best choice. Prove me wrong. Kim's a centrist and I like Kim so it wins by default

>are the relatively new identitarian lefties. They are not liberal.

They absolutely _are_ liberal though. That's the point. There isn't a trace of left-wing economic policy in their platforms beyond some vaguely palliative redistributive measures (bandaids on gaping wounds), and even then these incorporate non-white racial nationalisms (e.g. the idea welfare statism should include an element of reparations is gaining ground).

How many times do we have to repeat this? All mainstream politics in the West: Trump, AOC, Sanders, Paul etc, it's all variations on a liberal theme. Left-Liberalism or Right-Liberalism.