Tlou gameplay improvements

I don't get why people are criticising the gameplay. What more do you expect from an action adventure game? It's got a bit of stealth, exploration, crafting without being overwhelming, platforming, shooting and whatnot. What else do you want?

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the what now?

>What else do you want?

I want the barefoot ellie model in the nightwear from the end of the game in the model viewer.

>What more do you expect from an action adventure game?
The adventure bit seems pretty important.

These days games need to either heavily refine (Sekiro) or innovate (Outer Wilds). Tlou2 looked like it was pushing some cool details but otherwise gameplay looked like the same shit we've been doing since Uncharted 2

>gameplay looked like the same shit we've been doing since Uncharted 2
and that is bad how?

Uncharted 2 is the worst of the series.

I never bought a ND game after PS2 Jaks because they all looked like shitty railroaded movie games, so yeah

I wanted a sex minigame.

The gameplay was adequate for a game focussed on story. The story sucked so the gameplay is also being held to account. TLOU1 had similar limited gameplay but the story was so good it got a pass.

That simple.

>What else do you want?
Cunny.

>Press X rapidly to fertilise

what stops a person that gets grabbed from behing into a chokehold for them to go deadweight into a jump leaning foward into a stone cold stunner? i mean it looks like its possible. I ask this because some of the people she can grab are quite big.

Game physics.

It's great. The sound effects are pretty amazing - stealthing around clickers is actually pretty stressful.

this desu, was disappointed they didnt have it when i went to look

>Gameplay is near exactly the same as original TLOU with very little innovation
>"Why is this a problem????"
Most games tend to evolve when there's a 7 year gap in release.

>WHO NEEDS TO INNOVATE JUST PUMP OUT THE SAME PASSABLE SLOP FROM 8 YEARS AGO

but they did improve that part from the first. the pacing is a lot more realistic and sells the feeling of journeying through a city

The gameplay has barely changed since 2013.

They couldn't even fix the fucking awful AI of the original.

Shitloads of QTEs and scenes where you cannot control your character. Great if you like, but I don't.

the question is HOW, you absolute smoothbrains

Uncharted 2 is easily Naughty Dog's best game. Delete this.

people who say the gameplay isnt a huge improvement should go back to the first after playing 2 (if they even played it at all lol)

crawling through spaces, going prone, more convincing and expansive level design. it feels a lot less like a pop up shooter and more like an actual combat simulator

What is dark souls?

there's no way you've been alive long enough for you to have been around when that was actually true. and even then it was barely true.

>tlou2
>game
huh?

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Off the top of my head, a more robust trapping system ala Zero Dawn. Would've made perfect sense given the "zombie" setting. There were probably plenty of other ways to improve the game too.
Dark Souls had more minor changes between the games than the differences between this and TLOU. Why do you think people hate Dark Souls 2 so much?
>U-u-u-underage!
Retard.

ellie is part mushroom and the game just become a shroom themed infamous

the game is an improvement. I think a lot of people didn't acknowledge a lot of it because its more of an accumulation of subtle stuff. also having abby & ellie actually play differently to reflect their characters was a great choice. my other points:

>also having abby & ellie actually play differently to reflect their characters was a great choice.
With Abby being ridiculously too strong, and overall getting better weapons?

abby is worse at stealth and can't use traps though. she's only stronger if it fits your playstyle

Nobody criticizing TLOU2 in this thread has played the game.

It's not my favorite stealth game but it's a FAR more featured stealth game than Hitman

>wanting to waste even more time playing run in circles simulator 2020 by playing "walk around static vision cones until you wind up playing run in circles simulator 2020 anyways"

>turd sandwhich is better than giant douche
okay?

>What more do you expect from an action adventure game?
Good AI, good level design, actual exploration and less fucking talking and walking segments.

The problem is their execution in all of that shit is terribly mediocre. I could list a million reasons why but at the end of the day it boils down to it just not being fun. Which is unsurprising because Druckmann couldn't care less about making his games enjoyable to play.
>but I had fun
Well good for you dude. I don't know how you could find that so fun if you've played any other games that handle similar gameplay better, like MGS or Thief. A lot of people find it bland, and in the case of the first game the gameplay was merely tolerated so one could see how the story unfolds. At least in the first game we got a good story, in the second we just got a mediocre game with a shit story. Wow 9/10 GOTY.

why are you pretending to be retarded?

>if you've played any other games that handle similar gameplay better, like MGS or Thief.
MGS stealth gameplay is so fucking mediocre. I mean sure, it was good for the time, but the AI is so fucking retarded and easy to exploit

oh so you don't like the concept of stealth games at all? the ai is improved too, enemies hold vantage points, move in pairs, move more unpredictably.

>I mean sure, it was good for the time
Lolno. MGS always had mediocre gameplay.

no, stealth games are fun. tlou 1 and 2 stealth is just a snail's pace object avoidance game which is hardly a stealth game.

I want to screech.

Then tell that to you idiot

@514121987
I'm not stopping you

No gyro so it's 0/10. Your partner is still invisible to enemies, AI still mediiocre

>What else do you want
Ellie and Horse a 4 part series with a bonus X-Ray episode.
Based
Remove the cover system and create a more dynamic sight and sound detection engine.

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you haven't played the game.

>a more dynamic sight and sound detection engine
literally means nothing

All of these appears in the first one. So, if this is what matters, why bother buying another one?

yes i have. you can walk past like 99% of everything in stealth mode it's fucking BORING except this time they added the "guards follow footprints" mechanic by way of dogs so you have to hurry. which i already was in a hurry because the game fucking sucks and bores the shit out of me so it's not like it even fucking matters.