Is it still the most trusted cooler on the market?
Is it still the most trusted cooler on the market?
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Tyler Baker
It's the best cheap cooler. Best all-out cooler is the Noctua NH-D15, but that's more than double what the Hyper 212 EVO costs.
Brayden Torres
makes sense since it's double the fan and heatsink
Blake Jenkins
>based
I switched over from water-cooling for the NH-D15. Do not regret, much quieter, temps about the same.
Nicholas James
For $30? Yes
For $50 Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B
After that just get
Jack Watson
Noctua NH-D15 is the best, some of the be quiet! ones are also very good. Hyper 212 EVO is still great if you're on a budget and don't have a CPU that generates a stupid amount of heat like some of the high end ones
Andrew Edwards
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Anthony Jenkins
this thing keeps me from liquid cooling, the fucking temps it gets are insane. And that brown is actually quite sleek in my rig.
Ryder Cook
Are you looking for a cooler recommendation? Post CPU/Motherboard/Case.
I personally like Thermalright coolers because they're still a large amount of thermal mass (look at this boy) but they also don't cost as much as the Noctua coolers, this one costs ~$50 as opposed to Noctua's usual $80 ~ $90. It personally doesn't make a whole lot of sense to spend $80 of cooling for a $250 CPU if you're not getting 80/250 = ~32% more performance out of an overclock, these days you're lucky to get ~10% overclock out of a CPU, so if you're going to get a large heatsink it should be relatively affordable while also being relatively quiet with good performance. The overclock you'd get should be mostly the same either way. Prior to Thermalright, I used to like Cryorig coolers, but they've become exceedingly rare in the US and even if you can find one, they're kind of expensive. Used to be you could get a Cryorig H7 that performed better than the Hyper 212+/Evo for $30.
Brody Harris
This
Keeps my OCd 8700k ice cold
Unless I have an EXTREMELY good reason to, I'll never use another cooler
Gabriel Johnson
Because there are other non-Noctua heatsinks on the market that perform practically just as good without costing the same amount as a Noctua heatsink. Noctua subsists on a bunch of senseless brand loyalty when people are pretty blind and ignorant of competing products from other companies. I'm not saying Noctua products are bad, but you can get similar performance for a lot less.
Josiah Allen
people like to worship Noctua fans specifically like they are the second coming of christ, I've never understood it. They're just good fans ffs
Gavin Davis
>7th gen cpu
>want to upgrade to 10th
>motherboard isn't compatible
are mobos only good for the gen they come out in?
Liam Barnes
they're usually good for a few gens. Intel likes to change sockets a lot and AMD makes chipsets stop working with older cpus usually when they add a new feature or something
Asher Jones
This, they don't make a lot of sense financially. I personally went with non-pro ML120 fans, due to the quieter magnetic bearing and they still had wide PWM range and strong static pressure. $27.99 (or $14 each fan, before tax) if you're buying 4 or 6 fans to fill out a case. They're the exact same as the ML120 Pros, performance wise, just no LEDs and technically the fan blades are of a stronger/sturdier plastic since they're not translucent material.
I see no fucking reason to splurge $20 ~ $25 per fucking brown fan when you're looking to get good performance, good noise profile, at a good price. People regularly overpay for Noctua shit because people keep recommending them by-word-of-mouth.
THERE ARE OTHER COMPANIES MAKING SOLID PRODUCTS.
Luke Martinez
>are mobos only good for the gen they come out in?
With Intel, yes. Intel changes their sockets every other year. There's no real point in buying an Intel motherboard for upgradability, since if you upgrade the CPU to a newer generation, you'll most likely be needing a new motherboard with a new socket anyways.
Ayden Gonzalez
Intel's been pretty about about chipsets locking you into that same CPU generation for that motherboard. People have been praising AMD for the past few upgrade cycles because they can update BIOS and socket in a brand new generation CPU. This is going to stop after the 4000-gen Ryzen CPUs, to some degree. But early Ryzen adopters could upgrade to a 3600 with little problem. If this is important to you (motherboard lasts an extra cpu upgrade cycle) then consider AMD.
Wrong.
Gavin Phillips
Except you can continue to use the same heatsink over and over because its very rare for the fan to give out.
Hunter Gonzalez
it's an absolute pain to install this. Especially without a second pair of hands
Asher Reed
>airfags
Owen Perry
Cooper Bell
Arctic freezer 34 esports Duo is a much better budget cooler, get that one instead.
James Collins
name brand heatsinks are hilariously dumb, you can find the same schematic shit on alibaba for like $20.
Matthew Scott
Except if you did this with an early DH-15, you'd
1) Need to buy a Ryzen mounting bracket, back then Intel was the only player in town.
2) Might need to consider the alternate DH-15 with the larger coldplate base for the Threadripper CPUs if that's what you wanted to use.
Yes, Heatsinks can last for multiple upgrade cycles, assuming the mounting hardware doesn't change from generation to generation (Intel's been pretty static for almost a decade now) but the same applies for $50 Heatsinks compared to $80 ~ $90 Heatsinks, retard.
Ryan Nguyen
>he spends 4 times as much for worse cooling performance than an nh-d15
Michael Barnes
>Need to buy a Ryzen mounting bracket
you didn't need to buy shit, they were literally mailing them to people for free if they provided proof they owned the cooler
Kevin Jones
>ordering direct from china
>during covid19
>during the restricted and extremely slow transit times between countries, because most shipments are for personal protective equipment and medical supplies.
I haven't even been able to get anime tiddy figurines for the last 4 months now from AmiAmi, and that's from Japan. And you think recommending buying an air cooler direct from China is a good idea? Really, fag?
Juan Green
Yes I have it in my pc which was about $800 last year when ram was super expensive.
I'm getting one of these when I buy my new cpu
Nathan Davis
custom watercooling is so fucking stupid
imagine spending that much money just to add more maintenance and the exact same performance as an AIO or air cooler. Half the time it doesn't even look good anyways
Evan Butler
At what point your PC need a heatsink? That's not something for budget-midrange shit, right?
Daniel Johnson
it matches my razer gear
Leo Lee
>need another pair of hands
I've installed this exact cooler about 12 times in different builds and it's incredibly easy. Long phillips screw driver and don't have the fans on like a dumbass until after it's on. It's 4 screws. I've done them AM3, AM4, lga1150 and lga1151. You're just a klutz.
Gabriel Watson
Literally all CPUS need one
Lucas Wood
I mean, your cpu always needs one. You generally don't need and aftermarket one unless you do high workload stuff
Ryder Parker
every cpu needs a heatsink lol. The expensive ones like Ryzen 9 or the high end intel ones need the really thicc coolers
Juan Cooper
absolute brainlet, holy shit lmao
Jacob Howard
Every CPU made since the late 90s needs one. Most AMD and some Intel chips come with their own box coolers in case you want to be cheap about it.
Grayson Gonzalez
>Told the wraith cooler is the same as a 212 Evo
>Buy the D15
>The ricer ram that works on the Ryzen 3600 blocks the 2nd fan
>It's the Wraith PRISM cooler that's on par w/ the 212, not the standard wraith.
>$80 wasted
Andrew Williams
I'd rather not wait 2 months for my components to arrive thanks
Tyler Peterson
Your CPU always needs one user, always.
Joshua Howard
for me its kraken X73
Parker Gomez
one of the few AIOs that are actually good. Corsair H100i is also good
Logan Smith
I mean a huge-ass slab of metal like , my bad.
How bad are stock coolers from the box?
Carson White
surely you mean x63
Alexander Brooks
No, this is. It isn't even aftermarket.
Brody Smith
what about the shadow rock 3 and dark rock pro 4?
Kevin Russell
what do you generally use your computer for, what cpu do you have, what motherboard do you have?
Colton King
>ITT: Zoomers
Gabriel Collins
Where did she go bros? I paid $15 dollars without a rebate and it's the best air cooler I've ever bought.
Bentley Walker
get the black edition.
Aaron Smith
I probably am yeah but one of the screws on that shitty x frame refused to go in no matter how much I tried. Still works though
Nicholas Russell
be quiet's coolers are pretty much the same as noctua's except they're black and are a million times harder to put in and now that noctua makes fans that aren't beige and brown there's basically no reason to buy anything else
Jaxson Reed
when you are overclocking and/or have a high performance machine.
Brandon Lee
OH NO IM COOOOOOOOLING
Xavier Martin
>on par with 212
Not necessarily a negative.
Nathan Peterson
>How bad are stock coolers from the box?
It depends. Old stock coolers have a reputation for being practically worthless. The average stock cooler from 5 or more years ago will result in thermal throttling without overclocking. New stock coolers are much better. AMD's Prism cooler here will keep a Ryzen 7 around 50c during intense gameplay, for example.
If you are serious about having a high-end computer, you're going to want to order an aftermarket CPU cooler, regardless of how modern your stock cooler is.
Liam Howard
custom water cooling is actually really easy, and you only have to do maintenance once a year. switched from an AIO a year ago and haven't looked back. the people who have theirs explode or break are just retarded.
Lincoln Bennett
You only really need an after market cooler if your cpu doesn't already come with a cooler and/or you want to overclock or you seriously care about a little extra noise on stock clock speeds with a stock cooler.