Muchi Muchi Pork > DoDonPachi > Guwange > Fever SOS > Deathsmiles > Mushihimesama > Futari 1.5 > the rest

Muchi Muchi Pork > DoDonPachi > Guwange > Fever SOS > Deathsmiles > Mushihimesama > Futari 1.5 > the rest

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actually Futari is probably better than Mushihimesama but who cares

Are cave games considered harder than most shumps? I am new to this genre and the only thing i beeen playing is cave shumps

Why is the final level of deathsmiles so fucking hard?

yeah
touhou is way easier as far as bullet hell goes, and most shmups aren't bullet hell (touhou is also easier than most shmups)

zeroranger > all CAVE games

Guwange >>>>>>>>>>>> DOJ >>>>>> Mushi >>>> Deathsmiles >>>>>>>> Shit >>> The rest

They're all shit, who cares.

Imagine is the only good Cave game

Yeah i have acatually noticed that since my first shump was touhou 6, i had a great time with it but its relatively slower and easier, i was easily gonna 1cc that game but the fucker stop working on my computer so just bought the cave games

Naw Futari is pure cringe. Mushi 1 is better. Retards just prefer Futari because it's so flashy.

Touhou is better than all of those

I’ve only played ikaruga, thinking about getting donpachi or mushishima. I’m new to the shmup genre and heard cave makes good ones.

Get Crimzon Clover instead. It's better than any Cave game on steam.

What do you think of the new update?

>type-b buffed when type-c is still objectively worse
Good update but god fucking damn it the devs are committed to making me hate playing the cooler ship and better girl

Crimzon Clover is good but it's also a huge DoDonPachi ripoff

What would you consider the harder shumps?

It's a rip off of many cave games, but it's better than most.

Gradius/Parodius are hard thanks to the RANK system being total horseshit.
I can't remember which one, but one of the Twinbee games becomes nearly fucking impossible 2nd loop.

Fantasy Zone is hard as shit despite not really looking and feeling like it should be at first. Plus there's no continues.

So should I get crimzon clover over these on steam

Psikyo is better in general.

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caveshit is artless, soulless trash

You can emulate all the Cave games besides Deathsmiles II and maybe a few others on MAME, so yeah just get Crimzon Clover

Crimzon Clover only costs like 2 bucks on steam anyway. You should defininitely check it out.

get all of them they're all good

I need to ask a question, where the fuck did the font that Psikyo uses come from because it's also used in WarioWare and Tetris The Grand Master 2

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Any good shmups on switch? Cave or otherwise?

nothing against cave itself but holy fuck if cavefans are not the most obnoxious fucking retarded faggots ever, almost on par with smash or fightantards

Switch has Psikyo games, and Ikaruga too.

It's because all the touhou tards who flock to cave

Is the collection on switch good?

i like other shmups too, i dont even think cave is the best i just think they're good. raizing is better desu

I only played those ports on steam. They are ok ports. Lack stage select, but otherwise they are acceptable.

Has Cave said anything on why they haven't made a new game since 2012?

Because nobody plays these games obviously. They make more money with mobile shit nowadays.

Why do people use arcade stick with shumps, i can understand fighting games but why shumps?

ketsui and daioujou aren't on your list so it is immediately invalid

CAVE games are the best.
Raizing are pretty good too.
2hu is alright but the slower pace and lack of scoring doesn't get me fired up like CAVE stuff does.

If you like games with fast pace, very aggressive patterns and extremely deep scoring, then CAVE did that stuff better than anyone.

Because you have much better controll than with gamepad. It's also more fun to use.

Because shmups are also an arcade genre? Are you retarded? There's no advantage to using sticks on fighters either. In both cases they use it because it's fun. I actually prefer pad on fighters and stick on shmups.

Most cave scoring mechanics are complete garbage and riddled with bugs and balance issues.

Mushi 1 is brilliant. The single time I've had more fun with a shmup is with zeroranger. Honorable mention to Cotton Fantastic Night Dreams.

>Because you have much better controll than with gamepad
Can you give an example?

people who grew up playing these types of games in arcades are more used to the stick

>I actually prefer pad on fighters and stick on shmups.
This. I find for fighting games, stick makes it actually harder to pull off special moves. But for shmups it makes it easier to have good control.

Try playing Ikaruga for score with a gamepad and you will know what I mean.

With a pad you just play with your thumb on a tiny D-pad or tiny stick.
With an arcade stick, you can control a big stick with your whole hand. So of course you get much better controll.

Fever SOS has a really fun scoring system