CRPGs

The only thing PoE1 has going for it is worldbuilding, which means lots of walls of text. Everything else is subpar outside of a couple parts of the plot.

It's... meh? It's Baldur's Gate made by people who seemingly hate Baldur's Gate. It's really boring, somewhat overly convoluted mechanically and the story loves smelling its own farts a bit too much. And I say this as someone who loves BG.

my favorite cRPG is GTA 4

Any other recommendations for modern stuff?

I like fantasy stuff too, but I actually like sci-fi/cyberpunk more, so any suggestions for stuff like that would be really welcome. I've already played Shadowrun.

Thing is I remember hearing a lot about POE being a successor to these old CRPGs so I was kind of worried that it'd be representative of them, good to hear that it doesn't seem to be the case.

>successor to these old CRPGs
That's kingmaker now

Here's the cRPGs I finished
>Shadowrun DF/HK
>Divinity 2
>Dragon Age: Origins
>KotOR 1 and 2
>Alpha Protocol (it counts, shut up)
Here's the cRPGs I started and never finished
>Divine Divinity
>Planet Escape Tournament
>Fallout 1
>Neverwinter Nights
>Underrail
>Pillars of Eternity
>Divinity: OS
>Disco Elysium
It's not that they're bad (the combat in PoE was kinda shit though), it's just that I have too many videogames and switch to playing something else halfway through
Someone tell me what game to play and maybe I'll stick to it for once

also fallout 2, jagged alliance 2.
and fuck steam sales. always try before u buy.

ROMANCE?

so I was kind of worried that it'd be representative of them
Check out Kingmaker. It's much more of a "spiritual successor" to BG2 than either PoE or, from what it looks like BG3.
As for modern sci-fi RPGs - Atom, Underail, Wasteland 2. They might be a bit difficult to get to because of a steep learning curve - being successors to Fallout 1/2 and all.

>he doesn't know about BG2 romances.
Shame.

How does a RTwP game even work on a console?

Can someone give me a quick rundown on Kingmaker? What makes it so good? What makes it the "successor" to crpgs of old as people claim?

>Here's the cRPGs I started and never finished
>Divine Divinity
Why is that? I was going to pick it up during the sale.

Baldur's Gate is the best one specially the Baldur's Gate,2 still best rpg i played with the best companions and with good pace

Exactly what I said, I just switch to different games after a while
It was fun for the 12 hours I played, typical Divinity writing and little details you can find
The beginning is kinda rough for a melee guy though, consider playing a mage if you get rekt

it is the closed rpg to Baldur's Gate,we did ever seen
it is hard to describe it just feels good to play

>the closed rpg to Baldur's Gate,we did ever seen

For one - RTwP. Secondly, D&D rules. Thirdly - the hits the right tone between silly and serious, something BG was very good at. DivOS is way to goofy, PoE is too po-faced and pompous. Kingmaker feels just right, if it makes any sense.
Fourthly - it has a good balance between exploration, story and combat just like BG1/2. Unlike Obsidian, Owlcat knew very well why people like BG and what worked in this game.

I'm usually an archer in RPGs, but I guess I could try a mage.

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Archer is fine too, the problem is that melee characters get swarmed in the tutorial dungeon whereas ranged characters can pick enemies off one by one
You'll see when you get there

>Fourthly - it has a good balance between exploration, story and combat just like BG1/2
What cRPGs are the most explorative? Exploration and discovery are what really draws me into the genre.

Neverwinter Nights is probably the easiest to get into, followed by Baldur's Gate with Icewind Dale probably being the trickiest.
The thing about CRPGs (specifically the Infinity Engine era ones so: IWD and BG) is that they can be exceedingly challenging to get into, specifically because a lot of the challenge the game provides stems from simply knowing the D&D mechanics which aren't the most intuitive at the best of times.
For example: THAC0 (To Hit Armor Class 0) and AC (Armor Class), you want to be as low as possible, well into the - territory if you're going to be attacking at melee or range. This was changed for later editions and for games such as Neverwinter Nights, where you want these values to simply be as high as possible.
Now, both Baldur's Gate and Icewind Dale revolve around playing a group of low level characters, in D&D this means that your health pool is quite low, so a lucky critical can do in your toughest fighter or outright kill your mage.
It's important to recognise that this is simply how the game works in its early stages, and as you gain more levels and HP, things do even out pretty quickly even if it makes for a rough opening. It is also why some prefer to start off BG and IWD with a group focused primarily on ranged attacks for the start of the game.
The last tip I can really give you is to read your spell and ability descriptions. Certain spells and abilities can absolutely break encounters that appear outrageously challenging or even impossible at first glance in half and turn the tide of battle in your favor.
Oh and always bring along a thief, especially for IWD and BG, you'll want at least one in your party that is capable of picking locks and defusing traps (each respective skill reaching 90-100 eventually) as that will make things a whole lot easier for you, as well as net you a nice chunk of XP over the course of the game.

What do you guys think of Aarklash Legacy? The combat seems like you're playing single player League of Legends first but it's really fun

>What cRPGs are the most explorative?
Only old first person stuff. Exploration in western RPGs went to absolute shit with prerendered backgrounds forcing tiny play areas. Once the jump to 3D happened, players were used to tiny maps and it really never recovered.

I would say Fallout 1/2 is really good at the open world sandbox aspect of exploration. As for the sheer amount of content and quality sidequests - IMO BG2 reigns king here. It's much more linear than Fallout (or, dunno Divinity Original Sin) but the amount of sidequests, locations, encounters and "shit to do" is insane. You enter a random house by accident and before you know it, you are in alternate dimension fighting demons.

PoE is overly-criticized. Mostly because 8/10 people that played the game didn't realize what the kickstarter backer npc stories where, so one of the main criticisms you'll seeabout it are "DERS TOO MANY WORDS". It has a nice setting and is one of the few rpgs to include firearms, which is cool.

>muh giant maps
Gothic 2 has a pretty small map and it's literally the best exploran game ever made