Shit in the main pokemon games

>shit in the main pokemon games
>shit in Smash Brawl
>shit in Smash 4
>shit in Smash Ultimate
how can we save this flying garbage from being shit everywhere?

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Please I don’t want to see anymore charizards anymore. Everywhere I look I see him

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His gigantimax form is one of the top tier Pokemon in the current VGC format. Both his mega forms saw decent usage in VGC as well. He just gets destroyed in singles due to 4x weakness and stealth rocks. And he wasn't that bad in Smash 4.

He's good in X/Y. Mega Charizard X was an absolute beast.

Wasnt he good after getting mega evolution?

>gigantishit
nobody cares

>And he wasn't that bad in Smash 4

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No he's still shit in current VGC.

and now Megas is removed, dooming Charizard to be a shitmon again.

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It's decent in VGC 2020.
It was pretty popular in the early meta but now nobody uses it because the meta shifted pretty heavily. But it's still decent.

Not the only one. Fucker has to be a fucking attention whore and even in anime there is always a fucking charizard.
Xyz has Alan with his mega evo charizard. Sun moon has khaki with the mount charizard who is always there and now the new anime the champion is the main target of interest along with his fucking charizard.

>shit in ultimate
When
>back airs you at 40
>oos you with upsmash at 100
>forward throw you at 110
>ledge trap you into death with ftilt at 100
>nair mixups bullshit
>fastest heavy
>unedgeguardable
Nothing personal, kid
For real tho this fucker needs to be nerfed. I don't know what the fuck was Sakurai smoking when he buffed him.

Mega Y was better, especially in doubles.

should have kept rock smash in smash. i fucked so many people up with that retarded shit lmao.

Usage has decreased but it's still a huge threat in the current format. It's mostly that the meta has shifted to new strategies, but I've still seen people using it quite successfully on the VGC ladder and ranked mode in game. He's far from being "shit".

>fanfic meta
nobody gives a shit dude

He wasn't great or anything but I can think of 10 characters that are objectively worse than Charizard was.

>mega evolution
It was saved a long time ago

idk what patch he got buffed in I stopped playing after the first couple months. but he was ass then.

>shit in smash ultimate
Pokemon trainer is top tier in ultimate and charizard alone would be high midtier low hightier, stop being retarded op.

>Pokemon trainer is top tier
only because of Squirtle and Ivysaur.

Ivysaur is shit ever since the nerfs, he just has a lot of cheese and a decent projectile. Charizard and squirtle carry the character.

that's not true at all and you know it

Your post is proof that Zig Forums sucks at competitive video games

Damn Pokken really is irrelevant

I main pt, most pt mains agree that ivysaur is the worst one. All you have to watch out for is dair uair upb and side b. Besides that, the character cant do much since his tilts are slow and his dash attack is just OK.

PT main with 2000 hours here. Yea charizard and squirts carry him. Ivy is amazing, but his neutral blows because he is slow. Charizard is fast as fuck for some reason, and his back air steals games

bummer because it was a good game

What was your doubles team in the Gen6/7 meta?
Easy Mode: No Legendaries
Hard Mode: No Landorus

Mine:
Charizard Y (Roost, Heat Wave, Solarbeam, Protect)
Staraptor, Intimidate (U-Turn, Close Combat, Brave Bird, Protect)
Raichu, Lightning Rod (Fake Out, Nuzzle, Knock Off, Volt-Switch)
Klefki, Prankster (Reflect, Thunder Wave, Dazzling Gleam, Calm Mind)

>Shit in Smash Ult
No he's not

All three are good

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charizard is the single action army of pokemon
maybe technology has improved to make it easier, but in skilled hands there's nothing better

Fuck off, Leon.
come back again when your shitzard doesn't have 4x weakness to rock and can into Stealth rocks without losing half of its HP automatically

>Banjo
>S tier
lol okay

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Terrible tier list