For the dota chads:

imagine telling guys back then that, in no particular order:
> behavior score would matter so much and weakwilled griefable faggots would be able to ruin your account
> ranked queue with strict roles and infinite reports
> 5 free couriers which auto upgrade
> free support items
> free items dropping from jungle
> removal of the side shop
> free XP, free gold from bounty runes
> game breaking talents
> removal of jungling as a role
did I forget anything?
Why did things turn out like this?

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> removal of jungling as a role
It was always stupid garbage, even when it worked. Most of your other points are also dumb although I agree behaviour score can be cancerous.

>it was always stupid garbage.
I liked not laning or playing with my team as generally people that play dota were assholes.

Also it was fun to make skeleton / wraith king roam at level 3 thanks to iron talon to farm a fast soulring.

>dota chads
They don't exist

>implying those guys back then gave a fuck about mechanics
>implying they weren't playing because they wanted to school some BRs and brag about it
>implying we weren't just trying to style on fuckers and wodota

Fuck off zoomer.

Fun, but game-ruining. I'm glad it's dead. Also WK jungle was never good and you should feel bad.

> dota became the greatest moba with those features
> now it's a trashy dying game
> hurr your points is dumb
> wk/iron talon
A True patrician
Cringe
You should be griefed

Go back to redd*t

this
i played because i was a kid impressed by the most ornate custom map, not because i could spam Zig Forums shit and pretend i was hardcore for only having 1 courier

Dota is a team game faggot
Resource management has always been a thing as much as courier management was a thing
Now everyone's got their own little jungle item and with talents support get 2k hp at lvl 10 easily
> Zig Forums shit
Spamming nigger has always been the fun part in chat lmao

ban lists were a thing as well

>Dota is a team game faggot

Now? Sure, but back then? Haha.

LOL

Uhh, iron talon was removed before wraith king was able to summon skeletons...

People jungled WK pre-skeletons you silly goose...

As someone who played over hamachi back in 2007. and 2008. I can tell you the entire internet has gone to shit in a similar way.
I played warcraft 2 back in the nineties and warcraft 3 in cyber cafes when it was released.
You have to fight every day to the best of your ability against faggotry.
Reason why LoL is descending into pozzed faggotry and cancers slowly is the resistance both Riot and tencent and in the playerbase.
HoN however had no resistance to faggotry and died a fast death.

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imagine dropping even a 3k mmr player today into a dota game from 2005 lmao
people had literally no clue what they were doing. i remember the only time i ever played an original dota game on wc3, i was like 9, and i picked venomancer and walked down mid like 3 times into the tower and then quit LOL

Literally the only bad thing here is the removal of side shops

> removal of jungling as a role
No they didn't you dumpass

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>I'm too shit to lane so I'll just jungle and ruin the game
ebin ;^)

Creeps dropping items is a nod to core wc3

the free jungle items is quite faggy due to the amount of rng it adds, some of them like the vampire fangs are actually quite impactful and can turn the game if one carry has a good item and the other has jack shit

ranked queue is bad because it enforces a meta. things like support alch which the god claniraq theorycrafted and which nobody thought was even possible till the chains of the meta was broken would now earn you an instant report. same with support void, etc. the roles of heroes are 'locked' and the meta stagnates

talents are a toss up but some are clearly better than others and some are so good the hero is basically unplayable without them (WK's no mana respawn, unless the enemy team has no idea what they're doing)

role queue*

>the free jungle items is quite faggy due to the amount of rng it adds
It adds very little, far less than RNG elements that are already in the game like power rune spawns and crits.

Well, they are catering to everything redd*t says and that says a lot about what is happening
> removal of random as it was
> censorship and cancel culture bullshit
> my boy techies destroyed as a hero

we should be taking rng out not adding more

LoL is that way
RNG that can be countered, disabled, and played around is not unhealthy to the game

> I wanna boost my team's gameplay so I choose to add a notch in difficulty by going jungle or cutting mid creeps with axe

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>decided to play DotA since i get sick of Valve's trash, and I have WC3 copy lying around.
>Join lobby
>Enemy have omni carry that dominate the entire map
>Your team have useless techis that place 5-4 mines on the map, and barely do any impact.
>Instead of just finish the game asap, enemy toying with you for 40 minutes and "?" In chat
Woah, it's just like Dota 2.

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the more rng they add, the harder it is to counter it all if you have bad luck in a game

Wrong

Congratz user
That's the essence of dota right there

> it adds very little
> hey guys you can get a paladin sword/vampire fangs or straight up dogshit items all on a random basis
> both teams dont ever get the same shit
> not broken btw

>vampire fangs
very mediocre item, thanks for demonstrating how shit you are

I'd take all of those if it means I don't have to deal with leavers. Nothing is worse when you get a good start and then some moron quits the game. Dotalicious fixed this by being an inhouse with reconnecting but that shit came during HoN's peak.

>I'm too bad at the game to counter things so it's the game's fault

seems every fucking game some carry gets it and somehow it is enough lifesteal to push them over the edge in every fight

also if you can't see how jungle items are bad for the health of the game you are bad :^)
it's a slippery slope. next talents will be random. whatever seems impossible now will be possible just like a few years ago when free 5 couriers was impossible

> ruin the game with trash mechanics
> btw its your obligation to counter it
> btw if you play against a kunkka that gets a imp's claw straight out of luck and your PA gets a nether shawl thats your problem

you are bad at the game and it's not the game's faul

yes.

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>"j-just get good"
the oblivious head-in-sand faggot repeated as more and more redditized mechanics were added to the game turning it into dogshit. while you act like it doesn't matter how bad the core game is if you're good reddit is pushing through more retarded additions we can't even imagine. how about a limit on how many times you can play techies in 24 hours. it's a joke hero after all.
can't wait for a good moba to replace this redditized game

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also if you want to see a truly bullshit jungle item, look at repair kit
they might as well make that a cooldown item like tome of experience. you know what, i bet they will