Which one has the most frustrating developers to communicate with regarding their series' direction?

Which one has the most frustrating developers to communicate with regarding their series' direction?

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Definitely Pokemon. And theres 0 hope of the main series getting better, unlike Sonic and Paper Mario.

Easily pokemon given how it has so much potential and is simple in such a way that allows for loads of complexity while not requiring it
Sonic is just a platformer

didn't Masuda ignore feedback because kids have phones so who cares sonic team just try to attempt to appeal their fans by doing the funny things see on social media hence the sanic shirt in Forces and the wisps and spamming classic sonic

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I’d say Sonic, there’s been some changes/fixes that Gamefreak has done in SwSh like making it stupid easy to level up instead of being a grind and breeding as a whole, so it’s not like they’re not “deaf” but they could do a whole lot more. However Sonic I feel Has no idea what they’re doing and I feel it’s been that way for a long time, but every so often there’ll be a gem or two (Sonic generations/mania)

Mario still gets good or excellent main 3d games with a basis of Mario 64 gameplay despite a new gimmick introduced to the game. Every other game is at least reasonable, even rpgs ones despite Paper Mario not being like N64 and GC ones
Pokemon usually gets good or reasonable games, despite the fact that could be much better. Also had Pokken, which was good.

Now Sonic? Just the 3d main line have different fractions because ST are a bunch of retards that want to try new things often. 2d also have fractions, like Classic, Advance and Rush.
When Sonic gets ONE good game is a miracle, is FOR ALL OF THE FRANCHISE. After Generations + Allstars Transformed people waited years to happen something like Mania, but everything else has been a piece of shit
And Sonic is stuck to a retard that has been doing the same shit since the story books. The few times he hasnt been involved or be main guy, like Unleashed, Generations and Mania games were fine.
ST also misinterprets stuff. We have been playing just Sonics in modern games because those retards think people hate Sonic friends because of 06, when what people hated was the shitty gameplay, but fans always wanted at least Tails, Knuckles and Shadow playable in Sonic stages. Something that Mania, made by fans, got it right.

As much Paper Mario and Pokemon has their shares of problems, Sonic is way worse.

Paper Mario. Pokémon still has EXP.

pokémon. at least sonic pretends to listen

pokémon actively dumps its older fans to target the new generation every few years

This, at least with Paper Mario the dwindling sales are cathartic and Sonic's devs might suck but we still have western folk making good games.

Not a series but updates and content. Mojang is a multi-million company now and they cant be half assed to give more shit in this game than it needs. Literally just sitting on their golden egg, nevermind golden goose.

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Origami King is gonna sell gangbusters

Hype online is lukewarm at best.

Online reception does not translate well to sales.
Does any game on the Switch bomb?

And even if it did, Color Splash bombed horribly and it didn't matter.

What games have the opposite problem?
I'd say Crash seeing how that fanbase got Mr fucking Crumb back in less than a year

Zelda unironically listens to its fanbase too much, often to the point of overcorrection.

>Classic and Modern Sonic are now two different characters
>Mighty and Ray came back with thunderous applause but are only allowed in the "classic universe"

pokemon by a huge amount because it has been getting worse for approx the last 10 years, each installment is dramatically worse than the last since gen 5
sonic at least knew well enough to outsource sonic mania and considering how well that did will probably keep doing similar stuff
not as knowledgeable about paper mario but if it sells badly nintendo will probably just kill it

I'd say there's still some miscommunication
Look at Majora's Mask 3D
I don't buy Aonuma saying BotW 2 will be darker than Majora's Mask since I honestly have skepticism concerning him knowing why fans find Majora's Mask so dark to begin with

Pokémon, it has become the epitome of "one step forward, two steps back" over the years.

They got lazy like Valve and Game Freak

I think that was a mistranslation but Anouma would probably say that Twilight Princess is darker than Majora which is arguable.

As much of a paper mario fag I am, I have to admit pokemon is worse. The game has all the funding, backing, follow, and everything any game series could want, yet look at the state its in. At least paper mario died quick; it still has some good traits like good music and solid graphic fidelity (even if its not as good as the older ones). Pokemon feels like every single aspect of it is at 50% effort/quality, and tpc straight up doesnt care.

Kirby fans are treated like royalty by Hal

More like ten steps back

They dont pretend, they are retards. People asked for Allstars Transformed 2 and they made Sonic Racing only. One day they decided to go Mario Audience for LW. Sonic Forces was made to be dashed like a Maniac. Classic Sonic is now ALTERNATE DIMENSION SONIC and still no Mania 2.

Sonic in the last 10 years had 3 good games and was in a time where Sonic Boom, Forces, Sonic 4 and others existed.

Paper Mario. Pokemon is forced into a 3 year dev cycle to push merch and media and they never get to fully realize anything which ends up in them scrapping so many concepts because game freak sucks.

Sonic fans at least have the occasional good game with Mania and generations.

Atlus definitely. They had to be dragged out by their heels just to port P4G to PC. Havent even bothered to give a western release date for Scramble, and take forever to translate anything.

>3 years is a short amount of time to develop a video game
you're just confused about what a normal video game develop time is since pretty much every video game that comes out recently gets delayed or goes into development hell.

The problem with Pokemon is that the mass audience doesn't care enough, in fact there's negative incentive to not just follow pattern. Sword and Shield is one of the best selling games yet.

Sonic franchise by far. It's to the point where I swear that SEGA is deliberately going out of the way to sabotage their own success.
>8 remixed levels + 4 new zones instead of 12 new zones
>forces Meme Hill Zone for the billionth time
>no Hyper Emeralds because TROO FAR
>delays the PC version for 2 weeks prior to release to shoehorn in Denuvo, tarnishing its sales and fanbase goodwill in the process
>forces Classic and Modern Sonic to be 2 entirely separate entities from 2 different universes
>despite the overwhelmingly warm welcome for Mighty and Ray, never included in anything ever again, also locked to Classic Sonic's universe
>does nothing further with the Mania Adventures despite them being the most viewed things on the Sonic Youtube channel with 10s of millions of views EACH
>gets a rare chance in any company's lifetime to revive the franchise with the goodwill gained from Mania
>instead, chooses to disband the 3 studios involved with Mania, make the blunders of the century that were Sonic Team Racing and Sonic Forces
>Forces sales were so shit that it had to be bundled with Puyo Puyo Tetris in order to not look abysmal
>no news or mention of a Mania 2 despite the overwhelming demand for one
>cannot simply make use of the ocean of talent that's already making fangames again
>cannot be bothered to let Whitehead just fucking port Sonic 1, 2, and 3K onto consoles or PC
>cannot be arsed to secure the music rights to 3K or replace the tracks with the PC version because fuck you
>Sonic movie a fluke in being successful only because Hesse stepped the fuck in and had to salvage THE MAIN FUCKING CHARACTER
>despite said movie's surprising success, proceeds to disband the team responsible
>cans the Mania comic featuring the time gears because fuck you

And this is just for the Sonic franchise alone. This isn't even accounting for other retarded shit they did like the Game Gear minis.

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>Sonic
-Had mania, basically created by fans
-Is now taking more time to develop games and not rush them to improve quality
-They even meme about their bad games because they're aware of their failures

>Paper Mario
-After falling for sticker star at release I haven't touched another one
-Will also probably not pick up origami king:
No tactical party member planing / play
-no exp(?) will it even be an RPG at this point? at the moment it sounds more like just an adventure game.
-They will never go back to SMRPG, PM64 or TTYD it seems.

>Pokemon
-No idea, stopped after gold / silver / crystal
-but apparently the lie to fans and do not listen to what they want from what i pick up.

So from most frustrating to least:
Pokemon > Paper Mario > Sonic

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>even meme
Western twitter accounts don't develop games

New Sonic has been shit because Sonic Team tries too hard to appease all their fans too hard. Honestly if they had less communication we'd get a better game.