Defend this.
Defend this
*defends it*
they needed to make sure the player wouldn't think he is scummy
Alternate universe which means the game's not canonical.
The right one is a memory of what happened. Memories are flawed.
based
Attack this.
The entire sequel's existence is proof that ND and Druckmann don't have an ounce of artistic integrity. This retcon is proof that ND's writers are cowards who don't even conviction and confidence in their own writing so they have to churn out this soulless, near-identical sequel to the first game as a means of "apologizing" for the way they handled the ending. If they had an ounce of artistic integrity, they would have just accepted it for what it was and lived with it.
Fuck anyone who still defends this trash. I'm not even a Snoyfag or a TLOU fan, but this kind of bullshit pisses me off to no end.
Was it really that hard to import models from TLOU 1?
how come this didn't spark a controversy? he literally blackwashed a character
>Implying fireflies knew what they were doing and wouldn't kill an immune for nothing.
>Implying even if they did make a cure they wouldn't use it maliciously for control over humanity.
>Implying humanity even needs a cure when the most annoying enemies are the endless waves of bandits trying to kill you after you've put down over 9000 of them in one level.
>Implying humanity is worth killing Ellie (1st game).
>Implying nu/v/ plebbit cucks who would sacrifice their own daughter "for the greater good" shouldn't kill themselves for the greater good.
Is there some kind of oversight in the scenes in OP's image?
I never played The Last of Us
>thermian argument
Cope
In the first game the doctor is an irredeemable antagonist and you kill him
In the second game the flashback pretends that he was innocent and pure in order to guilt trip the player and make them feel bad for what they did
>Try to walk past the doc in TLoU1
>Game is having none of it
They didn't need a sequel to explain that though.
people keep memeing that the surgeon in tlou was a different skin tone than what is normally considered a white person, so much in that he could ostensibly be considered black in the first game. Which simply isn't true when you look at the first game's models. He looks nothing like the actual black character models.
Memory isn't perfect. I haven't played the game but if it's Joel who is recalling the event, his rendition of it can have been influenced and overtaken by the typical pre-outbreak expectations of a surgery. If it's someone younger they might have never seen a surgery and their idea of one and therefore default to a stereotype from whatever films and media have survived.
They changed the garments from green to blue, which is making Zig Forums seethe and think that Naughty Dog is incompetent and Neil an evil jew with an agenda. Just let them get the retardation out of their system and move on.
Retcons happen all the time. Sometimes they are for the better. This is one of those occasions.
Please be shitposting.
>Fuck anyone who still defends this trash. I'm not even a Snoyfag or a TLOU fan, but this kind of bullshit pisses me off to no end.
I think the game was really fun and immersive. Maybe you should play games you speak of, instead of getting all your information from this site, which is clearly a mix of /pool/ and Nintendo fans.
One is a recalled memory, one isn't. Use that cancerous tumor in your head, brainlet
No, I'm not. This retcon creates drama and serves as the catalyst for the second game. An example of a bad retcon would be ammo clips from ME2.
that's called being detached from reality faggot
Artificial drama.
Listen, if you were to ever get these guys in a room to discuss this game, they would be tripping between sentences and attempting to string together a bunch of made up shit they "heard" about the game.
You are better off talking to a wall, they are brainless sheep that pretend the game is awful due to unrelated Zig Forums shit, despite being extremely fun, polished, and mechanically sound and having a better story than 99% of the shit anime stories these fags worship.
>Artificial drama
You wouldn't want revenge if some psycho killed your dad who was just trying to help? Are you cuck?
I'm glad I'm not schizo enough to even be able to discern whatever implication the comparison is trying to push.
Expecting something good from Hollywood garbage...
Bop it.
Didn't the original game also have an audio tape that implied the fireflies didn't even really know if the surgery would work and have tried it and failed in the past that they then removed in re releases?
t. plays hollywood garbage
The father being represented as a dindu nuffin saver of animals who wanted only to save humanity must be a recalled memory too.
>a surgeon who hasn't practiced surgery OR medicine in a proper hospital for two decades
>his plan to cure humanity of a fungal infection is to perform exploratory neuro-surgery
very cool
>the game is fun and immersive
Okay, Druckmann.
Go play an actual game like Gothic 2 and tell me about your 'immersion' in your forest walking simulator.
I beat Gothic 2, I liked Risen better.
Are you autistic dude? Why do you obsess over the game?
WEAR.
THE.
FUCKING.
MASK.
Yeah it's a stupid idea to try to make the player empathize with post apocalyptic Mengele. It didn't work bros.
>play game 1
>find evil doctor, kill him
>play game 2
>Look at the nice, friendly doctor you killed in the first game! He was just trying to help! You're such a bad person for killing him! You should feel bad!
This isn't even some obscure connection, druckmann and every reviewer praises this game on how it makes you feel bad, but he does that through retcons and cheap manipulation
>why do you obsess
Why do you shill?
>Joel delivers Ellie
>instead of being professional the fireflies are needlessly antagonistic to Joel and practically give him a reason on the spot to start shooting
>angry heavily armed man enters the room
>threaten him with a knife
>liking a game is shilling
I guess everyone is shilling then.
>every reviewer praises this game on how it makes you feel bad
Almost as if they're all following a script of some sort
The most hilarious thing is how Naughty Dog claims to be FOR representation but then they do shit like this. Really makes me think they did fuck over Amy
>I beat Gothic 2, I liked Risen better.
Proof that you didn't even played NoTR