>Castlevania Lords of Shadow gets announced >fans question it because it's made by westerners and not a new Igavania >Zig Forums tells us that it will be fine because actually it's a return to classic Castlevania style action and the Igavanias were never good and they'll still make those games anyway so there's nothing to worry about
>Lords of Shadow comes out >is mediocre >Does not bring in new fans because it's a mediocre action game >does not bring in Castlevania fans because it's not Castlevania >no new Igavanias >kills entire franchise
well Zig Forums are you ready to admit that you were wrong?
Lords of Shadow 1 was a good game. Nice reboot to the Dracula origin story, still looks gorgeous and had plenty of variety. If it had been left at that there wouldn't be as much hate for it. It's MoF and 2 that ruined it.
Carter Kelly
But I liked it. 110% it some time ago. Voice actors were great, atmosphere was good, bosses were fun, levels were interesting. I don't know what people don't like about it.
Brandon Sanchez
This game is not castlevania
Nathaniel Davis
I liked it. I never played GoW, so I never had a reference when everybody dismissed it as a clone.
Jacob Jenkins
Never listen to Zig Forums. If Zig Forums tells you the sun will rise tomorrow, you better bring a flashlight.
Zachary Reed
Hold on a sec OP, I'll message all of those anons from literally 10 years ago to get in here so you can properly tell them how wrong they were.
Benjamin Brown
Hey user you’ll have sex in your near future
Mason Perez
Lords of Shadow 1 didn't kill the franchise. It actually had a favorable reception for the new things it tried. It was Lords of Shadow 2 that fucked everything when it was blatantly clear that the director hated Castlevania fans and did everything he could to shit on them in his game.
Mason Scott
I actually enjoyed 2 and its DLC. Fuck you.
Lincoln Jones
Lords of Shadow is the best selling and highest grossing Castlevania title ever. It may not be true Castlevania, but it was able to pull off something that attracted a lot of people. It's also one of the best rated Castlevania games.
It's sequel, however, failed to complete the story and crashed where Lords of Shadow soared.
It wasn't just Lords of Shadow 2, the first game's sales were high but dropped off quickly after release when it started to receive poor word of mouth. Mirror of Fate was when the well was really poisoned, LoS 2 was what killed it once and for all.
Daniel Watson
Elaborate on how it failed. Are you talking about the open ending?
Jaxson Gonzalez
I never liked LoS because I saw it for that it was. Trend chasing bullshit that spit upon the things that made Castlevania a gaming classic. Lo and behold, turns out they don’t know what the fuck to do with the franchise, it’s dead, and the most popular bit of it has Alucard getting literally fucked in the ass
Carson Cox
It felt like a eh god of war. I wanted to like the whip and stuff but overall felt like the he could have used a motorcycle to ride.
David Bennett
I was very disappointed with the open ending: Dracula's curse isn't lifted, he doesn't get to go to Heaven with Marie, Trevor doesn't give him true death.
It made me think that Konami interfered with the game and didn't want MercurySteam to end it in the way MS wanted. The artbook even has a final form version of Satan as a seven headed, seven crowned dragon.
I love Lords of Shadow, love the music, love the art. But, man, is that ending a complete letdown.
i would rather have a meh tier god of war than more shitty metroid knock offs. castlevania stopped being good after dracula X
William Lopez
>Nice reboot to the Dracula origin story But the actual Dracula part was fucking terrible. The only thing they showed was a 3 minute epilogue that they had to flesh out in a terrible DLC.
Hunter Peterson
Pic related was legitimately one of the worst Metroidvanias ever made and I wish I could beat the shit out of someone at Mercury Steam for having no understanding whatsover of how the genre works.
>I would rather a knock-off of a knock-off than an actual good game ???
Jayden Nelson
That's where you are wrong. This game IS Castlevania as it's meant to be. Igavania's are an abomination upon the series and should never have been allowed to send it down that path.
Everyone knows I'm correct. You cannot dispute this.
Xavier Sullivan
Why are you pretending to be retarded
Eli Brown
>castlevania is a game where you can only beat the boss by doing anoying QTE
Brody Richardson
>kills entire franchise But it didn't, it was the best selling Castlevania they ever made. Lords of Shadow 2 is what killed the entire franchise.
But then you've got Iga making both Igavanias and regular Castlevanias these days, so everyone's a winner as long as they're not invested in Konami.
Bentley Lee
>Game that plays literally nothing like Classicvania, looks, feels and sounds nothing like the games before it, and shits on even the basic lore and characters that were established before Iga even touched the series >What Castlevania is meant to be Okay retard.
Literally can't dispute it. Stay mad, retards. Now take your wrong opinions and go play a real Castlevania, not your Metroid knockoffs.
Charles Carter
LoS1's sales can be explained as being due to brand recognition. It was the first console game in a long while with a big marketing push towards westerners, so Westerners who recognized the brand jumped in. The amount of people who had heard of Castlevania but weren't fans though was relatively small.
A lot of reboots do this: the first one sells okay on brand recognition, and then the next one craters because those new consumers aren't necessarily repeat consumers.
Jonathan Torres
user, no one is buying it. We all know you're just pretending.
Carson Martinez
Pretty sure most fans would be skeptical of it because we have >a set beginning when Dracula first fights a Belmont >a set ending where he is dead dead, for sure this time >a in game cycle of a century for his castle to reappear >a few side stories already plus Aluchads presence closing off many future potential storylines Overall it combines to severely limit what games can be made. You have a very limited timeline that is already jampacked with main entries and side games with a beginning and an end. Any game made after that would be shoved into a weird spot in the timeline, undo the ending, a prologue, or unrelated to the main games. That would set off some redflags for most fans.
Jayden Ortiz
It was also cinematic, had big name actors, and cribbed a bunch of mechanics from bigger games
Lucas Miller
Ok retard
Noah Peterson
>Fall damage >Every enemy is a goddamn damage sponge and the emphasis on combos mean that your whip attack feels like you're just swinging around a wet noodle >Game will lock you into combat rooms which respawn while backtracking slowing things down to a snail's pace in a genre where being able to move around quickly is key >Rather than straightforward traditional platforming they've shoehorned in climbing mechanics which when combined with fall damage further slow down any instance of backtracking >Instances of platforming and combat now typically have to separated because they've been over-complicated and don't mesh well >Bosses are QTE-fests built around smacking away until a button prompt pops up >Level system only affects unlocking combos rather than actually empowering the character in some way >The three character set up means that you're never allowed to become comfortable with specific subweapons and playstyles like other Metroidvanias because you're just going to be switched to someone else >Sound mixing is so poor that it can actually damage the 3DS's speakers Mirror of Fate is absolute shit, fuck you.
Brandon Parker
Forgot my picture. Fuck Mirror of Fate and fuck you.
Wrong. I absolutely loved LOS1 because it reminded me of the originals before Iga. Not to say there was something necessarily wrong with Igavanias, But you can’t say they were consistent in quality. Especially with Soma. I even enjoyed MoF and don’t understand the massive amount of hate it gets. LoS 2 fucked me up big time. There was some real potential that got tainted by an egomaniac director. I still think LoS 2 has the best western combat despite it being a convoluted dumpster fire.
Brandon Miller
>ackshually Fuck off, nerd
Wyatt Martin
Well it turns out the thing you liked about it was what killed the entire Castlevania brand
John King
Your game fucking sucks, Mercury Steam.
Joseph Murphy
It was an OK game. I remember that I hated the first levels but it got considerably better at some point. LoS2 on the other hand... Shit story, shit gameplay. What was up with the Castle nonsense?
Hudson Gutierrez
>I still think LoS 2 has the best western combat despite it being a convoluted dumpster fire. My award for that still goes to The Dishwasher: Vampire Smile. Even if it's a fugly indie game that looks like MCR fanart.
Colton Morales
>user provides points >you use meme speak instead of refuting his points kek