So we're in agreement that they should just make classic style games now, right?

>>So we're in agreement that they should just make classic style games now, right?

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You're not wrong, but I'd still prefer it over another Forces.

Or Sammy could instead try to make new games to make that they won't fuck up?

Iizuka is so butthurt over Mania's success he'll never allow it out of spite.

I would still prefer to play any 8-bit/16-bit Sonic over Mania

Legit don't get why they can't just have a consistent 2D classic team and a 3D modern team.
2 different branches of the series, everyone is happy.

>It is the New Sonic Bros of Sonic games
That's wrong.

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Why is it wrong?
It rehashes a bunch of zones for no good reason.

Who do you mean by "they". If we're talking about taxman/stealth making another game like mania, then great. If we're talking about Sonic Team or Dimps, fuck no.

Also, I really would like to see someone take another stab at 3D sonic. There's nothing fundamentally wrong with the sonic adventure formula, and if we got something like that with more advanced physics and levels with lots of branching pathways like in the classic titles, it'd be great.

Some people eat their own shit. I won't judge your preferences.

Maybe so, but they change them up enough in their second acts that they're practically new stages half the time anyway, toying around with a shit load of concepts in unexpected ways.

Also, the art style is actually, you know, good.

The themes of the zones, not the level design.

It reuses the visual themes but it adds a lot of unique elements too. Calling it a straight up rehash is pretty disingenuous.

Have you tried Sonic Robo Blast 2?

No one unironically thinks SMB1 is better than NSMB1. Mario has the exact same thing Sonic has:

SMB3/W > NSMB1 >>> SMB1 >>> SMB2/Doki
Sonic 2/3K > Mania >>> Sonic 1 >>> Sonic CD/Knuckles Chaotix

As expected of the New Super Sonic Bros
Wahoo!

SEGA fault nigger. Same happened with Forceshit.

They should make something different like Spinball or 3D Blast.
Or contact Bioware to make another rpg

>Mania is essentially CD2
>mania fans dont like CD
Huh

I'll rather go back and replay SMB over NSMB anyday.

>It is SEGA's fault it is a soulless game
I agree, I didn't claim otherwise.

>No one unironically thinks SMB1 is better than NSMB1
I do.
I also put Sonic 1 above sonic 2

>There's nothing fundamentally wrong with the sonic adventure formula,
Mechshit, Hunting shit, Fishing shit, and tomagachi rippoff shit can all go to hell.

sonic is biggest in the UK

>No one unironically thinks SMB1 is better than NSMB1
Except I do.
3>USA>1>World>NSMB

Nobody is convincing themselves of that, we all know Adventure 3 will never happen. Everyone knows whatever they're going to show will be shit, we just want to know how shit it will be

More like do more Sonic Mania's. Only this time, wait and do them after they make a bunch of new levels. The ratio should not be equal, for every 1 retro remix stage there should be 2 new zones. The GBA games, unchosen levels from the old games, and the game gear games gives them plenty of material to work with.

I agree, but I'm strictly talking about the sonic gameplay. The filler bullshit can go fuck itself.

Reusing visual themes is not necessarily a rehash. I wasn't a huge fan of mania, but it's a solid game. When flying Battery morphed into a hybrid of winged fortress I could not have been happier. 6.5/10.

3D sonic can be done well
it just hasnt been yet

HOW? You're not exploring a maze that kills all momentum looking for generator trash. You literally CANNOT do webm related in CD. Mania is Sonic 2 x 3K 100%, the best of both worlds

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3D Sonic has already been done well.

Nice nostalgia nigger, fuck off
You're not the standard, people unianmously prefer 2/3K out of all things Sonic.
Fuck off purist niggers

CRTrannies belong in

Somebody with an actually correct opinion, amazing.

Guys guys guys, how about this. Do Sonic Mania again only, and brace yourselves for this one, nobody has thought of it before, EVER. Make sure the game has MORE NEW LEVELS THEN OLD LEVELS. Yeah, blew your minds just now didn't it?

>throws an autism fit over people preferring the original SMB over NSMB as to his small pea-sized brains the situation is identical to Sonic 1 versus 2/3K

Seek mental help

I think this is where Adventurefags get the idea classicfags are trash fans. They get mixed up wih the people that are Sonic 1 purists instead of the real fans that grew up liking all if not most of the classic formula games instead, and it seems like the pruists are always the loudest sakes of shit ruining the image of us all

As a classic era fan, I appolize for our local purists making us look bad, and calling SA1/2 trash tier games. I even love SA1 as much as I do S3K, so it's not all of us that treats Sonic 1 like it's a masterpiece in gaming.

I never got the appeal of sonic.
Like, you're supposed to go fast, right? But if you blindly go fast you get fucked
If you don't go fast and actually try to go through the levels, it's just very awkward platformer where every level is the slippery ice level.
Is there something I'm missing exactly?

So basically, if you can go fast, and do a level fast, and you can do this without fucking it up, wouldn't this be something called "skill"? Now ask yourself, "do people like being skilled at playing a video game?" The answer may surprise you.

Your lack of skill apparently.

>But if you blindly go fast you get fucked
Yes, zoomer, you're not suppose to turn off your brain playing video games. You're meant to git gud and skillfully master the gameplay and controls.

You're not suppose to get inside a Lamborghini and hit the gas, go at 200 MPH and not expect to crash because you never drove before.

I only hope we get a 3D version of mania with all the zones from the 3D sonic versions

You play the game more than once and learn the level layouts. Are you the sort of person who credit feeds through shmups and never touches them again too?

SEGA, HIRE THIS MAN

Where the fuck is the skill in running smack against a wall you never would have seen because the camera is way too close for that thing or fall to an instakill pit.

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Also likely beats entire games on easy mode and doesn't understand why people would play hard mode.

More skill then you have apparently.

This.

Git gud, fagball.
The screen is zoomed out enough to where you have plenty of time to watch out for obstacles unless it's a blatant 'go fast' area like Chemical Plant but even then it never throws you directly into hazards without ample warning/slowdown.

that does not change that i still want sonic adventure 3.....

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>Is there something I'm missing exactly?
a brain

I prefer the level design of Sonic 1 over 2. Specially starlight and scrap brain zones. For me sonic 2 has better bosses and the best final boss of the trilogy.
Also, smb is a great action game. I cannot say the same about the borefests nsmb games are.

A lowpoly sonic game like the saturn should have got would be nice.

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> If you don't go fast and actually try to go through the levels, it's just very awkward platformer where every level is the slippery ice level.

d-did you actually play the games? what am i saying, course you didn't.

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Was expecting shit for that, but you're alright.

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Nah, I liked Heroes and Adventure

2D Sonic already hit its peak MULTIPLE times. 3D Sonic on the other hand has literally never gone as far as it could. There is no Sonic 2 of 3D Sonic. There is no Sonic 3 and Knuckles of 3D Sonic. There is no Sonic Mania of 3D Sonic. I would say Sonic Robo Blast 2, but that's a fan game and obviously we're not talking about unofficial games. I want 3D Sonic to have a truly great game like the 2D games get. Even Sonic Rush and Sonic Colors DS are amazing 2D Sonic games. I want Sonic Team to focus on making a great 3D Sonic game.

I'm convinced any bitch that cries about muh screen crunch played the Advance games or that cancerous Sonic 1 GBA """Port""" instead of the faithful, on tv Genesis version. No one with good eyesight would have issue playing these games, because it was a non complaint throughout Sonic's 90s history. No one complained about this ever in the 90s, and only began to appear during the 2000s/10s

Nah he "played" the game, but by holding right and expected to not get hit or fall into a pit for it.