TW WHII Thread WOOD ELF REWORK CONFIRMED

>Moulder to Skaven
Save it for game 3

probably DE imo. Next Skaven lord would most likely be Thanquol and relegating that rat as a addon lord to a major patch for a different faction is disrespectful.

PEEPEEPOOPOO FIX WHEN YOU SMALL FAMILY COMPANY OF COCKSUCKERS

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If can still play as the wood elves if you only get the new DLC. Though you'll be locked out of RotWE's legendary lords.

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Gib Dorf for a Vortex.

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But the fix is meaningless since the faction it fixes is unplayable if you don't already have the WE DLC. So it is DLC for DLC

Just pirated this, haven't played any TW game aside from Shogun for like 2 hours. What can I expect? I like stuff like EU4 and Civ.

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Great.
This update will again break the game for 2-3 months until they release a patch to fix the last patch.

Its nothing like those games

>more fucking skaven before fixing beastmemes
Khorne has abandoned us

Please, far, far away from Grimgorz Ardboyz.

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They're obviously revisiting LM since they're the only ones that got nothing so far. Rats got the under empire, Druchii got reworked arks and Helves got....kinda shafted. But yeah it's lizards.

80% of your time will be spent on the campaign map managing your settlements — read the building chains and the tooltips to figure out what everything does, a lot of buildings are interconnected, and managing values like public order & corruption are crucial
20% of your time will be spent in-battle and you need to understand how to form a basic spear line, rear rank of ranged units, and flanking detachments of high-attack/AP units (preferably with high mobility such as cavalry or light armor/fat units). Start with hammer & anvil with rear archers/artillery before you go trying to figure out how to checkerboard a firing line of gunners. Your primary goal should be getting comfortable with giving orders in real-time without relying on pause every 5 seconds.

It's not really comparable to EU4/Civ other than also having strategy elements. If you're pirating, I assume you got both games for Mortal Empires + all DLC. ME is the definitive experience, don't bother with Vortex campaigns. You're gonna get your ass beat a lot while you're learning, but if you come from EU4/Civ you're probably used to that. Enjoy the intense real-time battles, they're the highlight of the game. Good starting factions are High Elves, Lizardmen, Dwarfs and Empire. They do standard map painting shit and have pretty straight-forward playstyles.
This announcement pretty much confirms that Beastmen/WoC won't be getting overhauls until TWWH3.

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Lizard chads don't really need anything though. Maybe a re-work to geomantic web? Only thing I can think of really.

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>revisiting a game 2 race seems like a bigger deal than another lord.
Eshin isn't that old, Dark Elves just got shit, High Elves got shit, so it leaves Lizardmen. I think redoing the mechanics of the campaign is where "revisiting" lies. The geomantric web is fucking awful, and that is all they have really

The geomantic web is one of the most important parts of lizardmen lore and yet in TW it's fucking dogshit

And a rework of the whole blessed spawning shit ass system. And Nakai really REALLY needs some love. Like, badly.

Wait so it's not a race vs race dlc? just treefuckers?

Nakai sucks big time and is probably an easier fix than most of their other options. I'm guessing they're saving the more extensive overhauls for the final game.

>made a bunch of mods for TW2
>no longer feel like updating since I stopped playing the game
>every time I go to steam I have to deal with pic related

Modding was a mistake lads.

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Amending this to say only Empire & Lizardmemes should be first picks, elves and dawi can get fucked
Empire can be pretty brutal for a beginner now with the secession/fealty mechanics, but dinospam won’t teach a newbie the basics well enough due to the high reliance on monsters and complete lack of ranged.

There's nothing wrong with beastmemes. A buffed minotaur doomstack can steamroll three late-game Empire AI doomstacks at the same time all while being fun to use manually if you chose not to auto-resolve. What more could you ask for.

I had the same when i modded for XCOM 2, just mute the comment threads on the mods

What mods?

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Just remove the mods from the workshop if you're not ever going to update them you lazy fuck.

>entire campaign broken
>BUT THIS ONE UNIT IS STRONG SO THEY DON’T NEED A REWORK
Skaven jewry, ladies and gentlemen

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what mods did you make?

Nakai's problems are baseline horde mechanic problems. A complete rework of the system can't be done as a one-off Lizardmen update/DLC.

>Basedhammer

Yikes

>not fucking a dryad
Shit taste

A few of them, some are now redundant like "always fast forward" since they added that to the game, but this is one example
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Yeah, Im thinking about it, but Im not really sure which work and which dont, plus even taking down 40ish mods is a hassle.

What's broken about the campaign? Exterminate all humans, tour around the world razing cities.

Why can't every horde be like vampire coast?

Well he can be fixed. Make his vassal a non-entity with regards to diplomacy, change the whole garbage tribute system into something else etc. There are ways to fix him and make him interesting without having to go all the way.

Dawi are literally baby's first faction. Just stick them in a box with 4 grudgethrowers and watch the kills pile up.

Oh I remember that mod, nice. If I were you I would just give people the ability to work on them since you don't want to any longer. Chances are others will pick up where you left off and then you won't have to worry about it and people won't lose out on the mods.

>200 hours of whack-a-mole because razing causes zero consequence to the resettling army
Play Attila and you’ll see how far both horde mechanics and siege battles have fallen.

What Lords they will get?

Dawi are gay and not the Chad kind

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The sisters and the evil butterfly queen, counting on it

I imagine Ariel, with Drycha as the bonus for owning the original DLC, since they say it's ME only.

>WE, the shitties most annoying unfun faction gets the dlc instead of vc/dawi
We could have had all the 4 main factions from wh1 in the new world or even a norsca LL instead we get new elves, fucking CA

>Meme of sotek is trash
>red crested skinks are trash
>engine of the gods is disappointing
>ancient salamander is trash
>Normal stegadont aim sucks balls
>Nakai is underwhelming, same goes for ancient kroxigor
>Holy kroxigors might as well not exists

Fix this shit and LM will be mostly ok

Yeah, I guess I should add notices saying they are outdated and anyone is welcome to them. I got a lot of pms about people wanting to update them/copy them and I always said yes, mods are mods and everyone should be allowed to cpy and reproduce anyone's work freely, so not sure which have already been redone.

I would personally wager Prince Oreon and Ariel.

>treefuckers getting a rework
>not chaos nor beastman

feelsbadman.

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Ariel can eat Dawi ass.

Holy fuck this is amazing news. When I bought into WH2 I did it by looking at every army roster and lord on the wiki one by one, and I bought the wood elves because their roster is so great, only to discover that they are broken beyond being usable in campaign. Everyone always said they'd never get fixed as well because they won't do DLC for a DLC race. I am so hype for this.

Ariel, Drycha
Free hero is probably Scarloc
Free lord is probably The Sisters

This means a chaos and beastmen rework is almost guaranteed user, tnhe biggest barrier before was simply "they won't do DLC for a DLC race" but clearly they will

>Everyone always said they'd never get fixed as well because they won't do DLC for a DLC race
Everyone who said that was a dumb nigger, CA directly contradicted them several times and they sitll believed that there would never be DLC for DLC. And as anyone with half a brain knew, making a Wood Elf DLC in WH2 isn't a DLC for DLC, it's a DLC just for WH2.

Vampires will take over the Empire without even your intervention. Bretonnia is a joke.

Fair enough, I am still so new to the game (and the franchise) that I took them at their word. Still, I am fucking delighted about this. Day 1 buy.

yes, they need a huge nerf to those tier 3 units they got as basic infantry

Lizards are boring. Prove me wrong.

How were hordes in Attila?

>"they won't do DLC for a DLC race" but clearly they will
Curios to see how well it sells since by the info they have given out if you just buy the new DLC without owning the wood elves you will only have access to 1 LL and ONLY in the Vortex campaign which overall doesn't seem like a great deal.

Hey, im the sixth person that likes Chaos Dorfs.

I think if they actually manage to fix these races, it will drive sales for the old DLC as well because people will try them in vortex and then want to play them in ME.