ITT: Characters that Trigger Miyamoto
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What doesn't trigger Miyamoto?
I can only imagine how big an aneurysm Miyamoto must've had over Odyssey in general
I imagine there were probably a lot of concepts for the game that he probably killed in development, like the New Donkers having similar proportions to Mario/Luigi/Pauline from the artbook.
You mean literally any character that he didn't personally create himself? Dumb nigger was SEETHING as far back as Super Mario RPG.
He's probably the reason the broodals went through like fifty designs.
How could someone hate the perfection that is Belome.
Nintentoddlers don’t understand that the mandate is great for the series.
The Mario universe was getting too whacky with Super Paper Mario, Mario & Luigi Dream Team and Mario Strikers. Order and consistency had to be restored somehow for the franchise to have a clear identity, as Nintendo plans to expand the franchise beyond games and into broader areas of entertainment like theme parks and movies.
Also, original characters are still allowed provided that they don’t blend in too much with the Mario universe. Miyamoto loves the T-Rex, and it’s mandate approved.
>the mandate is great for the series.
It's not. Imagine if Superstar Saga was made today. Popple would be replaced with Nabbit (and wouldn't have any lines), Prince Peasley would be replaced with a Toad, and the Beanbean kingdom wouldn't even exist.
The mandate just makes everything sterile like NSMB.
*Donkey Kong Country
For me, it's Croco.
Goombella and Hariet are pure semen demons. Change my mind
He only gave advice
IIRC they even flat out said they ignored some of it
>Too wacky
>Strikers
>Uses only characters from the mainline series
What?
>Order and consistency had to be restored somehow for the franchise to have a clear identity, as Nintendo plans to expand the franchise beyond games and into broader areas of entertainment like theme parks and movies.
Completely irrelevant because they can just use the central Mario characters for that shit. No one's forcing or asking them to put in the unique one offs into theme parks, monopoly boards or movies. People just want the spin-off franchises to actually be good and exciting rather than sterile and boring.
Does Zig Forums even have sources for 90% of the shit it accuses Miyamoto with? Like his supposed hate of DKC?
Also acceptable.
You can still get creative with the franchise with the mandates. Paper Mario has raised it’s enemy variety considerably since Sticker, bringing back forgotten types such as Ninji, adding a more fleshed out Birdo into the mix and allowing Bowser’s minions to work with Mario; it just needs more significant friendly species and partners, such as Piantas, Daisy, or Rosalina.
For all the sterilization that was no doubt going on behind the scenes with SMO, Hariet is absolutely a top-tier character design.
The interview where he said it is probably 20 fucking years old so I don't have a fucking source. But apparently he's on record as saying, paraphrased:
>People will put up with shit gameplay as long as it looks good
And he corrected himself later by saying he was just seething because he was making Yoshi's Island at the time and the execs wanted him to make it look similar.
You can call this bullshit if you want, I don't even fucking know myself.
How can you make multiple movies out of the generic NSMB formula? You need unique characters and settings to keep a film series and spinoffs going.
>How can you make a movie out of generic characters with no real personality?
The Minions movies were one of the biggest box office successes of animation recently.
As far as I'm concern the DKC stuff is mostly just hearsay.
He is plenty responsible for the recent fuckery with Paper Mario and Star Fox (most of Zero's worst design choices came from him) though.
nintendo would be better off if he retired desu
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Well maybe it's bullshit. But anyways, fuck him. A lot of his fucking interviews give a lens into his train of thought and it's usually up his own ass.
Nigga that literally follows the "we can put in stuff that doesn't belong in the Mario universe" line to a fucking T.
You’d be surprised. People still confuse Goombella and Goombette. People still think Strikers Daisy is how she normally acts. With the Mario franchise being so large, and the widespread of resources and wikis that exist around it, having inconsistent portrayals and character designs can change what people think of the brand.
Outlooks like this mirror leadership views on branding and it's fucking retarded. No one needs for the "wacky" characters to be featured in everything. It's a game series that started with a plumber fighting an angry rip off of king kong for pussy for fucks sake. The only thing the brand really needs to survive is for marolio and luigi to be involved with bowser and peach any scenario these characters are placed in can be just fine.
>As far as I'm concern the DKC stuff is mostly just hearsay.
>People still think Strikers Daisy is how she normally acts.
Nigga how the fuck can she even act when she hasn't been in or done anything in the last 15 years?
>We
You can bet that Miyamoto was stroking his little fucking slant-eyed cock while huffing and puffing and nodding his head, telling Tanabe, "Oh yessu, VERRY good. VERRY innovativu."
Yes, they can be whacky. You can still have Mario/Luigi/Peach/Daisy/Yoshi/Toad. You can still put them in multiple scenarios. The whole point of the mandates is to prevent CONTRACTORS, like Intelligent Systems, Camelot and Next Level Games, from allowing the established characters to act out of character, and from drastically altering the existing universe designs and ethos.
Nintendo themselves understand the Mario IP more than Zig Forums ever will, and they can add new characters and locales to the Mario universe as they please.
It's funny. Absolutely nobody would have complained if Returns was exactly the same as it was, but Kremlings were also enemies and K. Rool was the final boss in his original getup. He's been so many different things, going back to vanilla King K. Rool would have been a breath of fresh air. Then he could go back to new getups in future titles. Him as the viking leader of the Snowmads would have been amazing.
Yet we've had Bowser as the final boss for every Mario game for decades, and Miyamoto never goes "Hey, what if we had a new villain kidnap Peach this time?"
They had individual minions with (relatively) distinct designs and personalities take the lead, though. And they added new villains and characters for them to bounce off of, instead of just being about past villains.
This level of ignorance is pretty pathetic desu. The past 15 years have established Daisy as a character more than ever, and it’s thanks to those mandates that her character has been consistently more energetic and lively than Peach’s.
Miyamoto says it best, contractors might not really understand the brand so you gotta put them in their place.
Star Fox Zero
Is dattu... A hattu goomba!? HOW DALE YOU ARTER MY PELFECTU DESIGN! UNACCEPTABR! FILE DISSU MAN!!!
I'm just hoping she and the rest of the Broodals come back in some form so they can be expanded upon and so we can hopefully get more cute ones like Harriet.