>actually listening to feedback on Alpha and beta and actively communicating with the playerbase
>consistently changing things so the systems will work fine for the majority of players while letting the 4% esports world first autists hang out to dry, blocking them from their always available 100% cookie cutter builds
Yeah, I think retail is back.
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>no more titanforging or corruption, less loot drops from mythic+
There's already crying on the forums. The addicts aren't having it. They want their whole circus clown car full of alts to be fully epic and this will severely hamper that goal.
You should understand firsthand that Blizzard is THE video game company that refuses to listen to their fans in nearly every fucking category. Of all the video game companies in fucking existence, Blizzard will actively check out what people think and will do a complete 180 to tell those people to go fuck off.
You're delusional if you genuinely believe in your heart and soul that Blizzard employees in the year 2020 of all fucking years are suddenly gonna be like "Yeah that shitty feature of our game should probably just get revised or deleted forever, huh?"
Ion saves WoW again! How does he do it?
>actually listening to feedback on Alpha and beta and actively communicating with the playerbase
listening to these crayon eaters is just a half step above letting nublizzard do whatever they want
>"Yeah that shitty feature of our game should probably just get revised or deleted forever, huh?"
That's actually what they're doing though. Warforging/titanforging gone, corruption gone, legendary RNG gone, multiple options from weekly chests added. Key system to enter Torghast removed after feedback from beta, run it as much as you want. Conduits as new relics changed to a permanent collection system.
The crying is magnifying by factor 10 with the weekly chest system and the conduit/soulbind system changes they added yesterday.
Oh no, now I HAVE to run 15 mythic dungeons every week! I HAVE to or I won't be optimal!
The fact that they have to listen to so much feedback to make the product acceptable is a sign that they are completely out of touch and learned almost nothing from BfA when designing Shadowlands.
>actually listening
>those changes
fucking kek
its a flop on paper since day one
Listening and actually acting on it is still a massive improvement over the absolutely no communication BfA Alpha and Beta that had a core system like Azerite armor only deployed a month before launch.
Are shadow priest and shaman still fucking garbage because they refuse to listen to complaints and then when the expansion comes out they will say that nobody gave them feedback so they can't be changed? Just like what happened in bfa
Do you only need to do one of those or do you get gear from all three? Can I finally stop doing dogshit fucking dungeons with bloated hp/damage numbers?
Fuck off Ion. Nobody will play your shit game any more
For each you do you get another option in your weekly chest to choose from.
You still get only one piece of egar, just more options to offset the chance of egtting something worthless to you.
How is this shit even warcraft anymore, it's like they just stole ideas from phone games
They've had 15 years to listen and the game has only degenerated
Fucking drone
>phone games
I wish phone games were games.
Shadow Priest is still fucked. Shadowform seem to be one particular dev's pet project and they refuse to even contemplate removing it/overhauling it, so it's just more band-aids for now.
Elemental shaman looks meh to me, but Enhancement and Resto seem fine with the SL changes.
True, i already bought the expansion but still think it is weird that the players have to basically tell blizzard how to design their game
>Timegating
The best made plans fail after contact with the enemy. Players will always find ways to game the system in ways the devs didn't conceive of. That's the purpsoe of testing, and they're actually putting it to use this time.
Still better than nothing I guess.
>We should praise and reward them for doing something that should be normal practice
No they're not
There's timegating in this game for sure, but I fail to see how this is one of them, or one of the actual problematic ones.
Before weekly chests you simply didn't get any free piece of loot every week.
>actually listening to feedback on Alpha and beta and actively communicating with the playerbase
>WW is utterly shit and have godawful covenant abilities
No.
Because it's a chore on a weekly timer, and yes you did, there were heaps of free loot from weekly quests
WW is a dead spec as long as DH exists and is exactly the same but better in every possible way
Were they listening to feedback on the shadowbringers forum?
>no longer care about mythic raiding or being cutting edge
>only care about getting AOTC and then just chill or unsub until next tier
>can join a friends guild anytime i want to raid since they know i'm good
>don't care about min maxing so can skip all the tedious shit
>still in top 4 dps even with shit gear
>Actually have fun in WoW again
Actually looking forward to retail WoW again.
buy the 6 montshs you fuck and get the pity mount
see you again in 6 months shit stain
Not even Blizzard reads their own forums. They go to MMO-C, Wowhead comments and watching streamers like everyone else.
>actually listening to feedback on Alpha and beta and actively communicating with the playerbase
that's how ow died
None of those things sound fun or interesting, I think you might be a loser?
>spend 15 times more effort to increase a chance to get an item you want from 1/140+ to 3/140+
>people will praise this
Yeah no thanks
overwatch was a piece of shit from the start
Yes, anyone who doesn't fill out all three of those bars every week is not going to be competitive. This is a terrible idea and is going to intensify burnout like never before. Who the fuck wants to full clear a raid, do FIFFUCKINGTEEN dungeons every week, and then do what I assume to be at least ten hours of pvp every week for the rest of the expansion? Blizzard can suck my ass with a straw if they think I'm going to spend that much goddamn time playing their game. I play a lot of games while doing low-intensity progression raiding, which, historically, has not caused problems, but in Legion/BFA and now once again in SL it's looking like they don't want to respect my time.
If you don't care about high-level play, that's fine, have fun however you want, but don't defend dumb design decisions.
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Strong waman incoming to save Anduin from the Maw and become Queen of Stormwind.
Other light-undead strong waman helps and becomes Queen of the Forsaken at the end of the expansion.
just burnt out on meta chasing and min maxing for the past few years.
Playing the game to 80% efficiency for 20% the effort is relaxing.
>playing the game is a chore
Now that you aren't forced to do dungeons you don't even need to pay attention to it.
>anyone who doesn't fill out all three of those bars every week is not going to be competitive
Idiotic mindset.
Yes it is a chore
it was a fun pos, now it's just a poc
I told you to shut up
whatever loser
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Can I just do mythic dungeons without bothering with raids or am I going to be far behind gear-wise? I can probably find a group of 5 but I have long given up finding a group of 20.
Mythic+ is purpsoely built as an alternate high tier gearing system next to raids. There's plenty of people who just do Mythic+ dungeons and don't raid at all.
no you didn't ya fuckin retard