I'll start.
Party members who should have been the MC
Ryuji deserved better friends
So when are you staring OP?
Zeke in XB2
Ryuji is a dumbass but it's kinda sad to see him get shat on when he's the most normal person out of everyone there.
i was gonna say the same thing
>Ryuji is a dumbass
Oh really? I didnt think the games writers told me enough times.
He isnt even the dumbest person in the party by a mile. Ann is dumb as a box of rocks but she never gets shit for it.
FOR REAL?
ISN'T IT AWESOME THAT NOBODY KNOWS WE'RE THE PHANTOM THIEVES
>Willing to sacrifice his life for joker just moments after meeting him.
>Literally Start the Phantom Theives
>Willing to sacrifice himself yet again to save the whole team
>Gets beat up and shit on as thanks
Being Ryuji is pain.
Every person in the party does this but Ryuji is the only one who gets yelled at.
Yosuke from P4.
>the most popular character of his game
>basically is the one that serves as your voice
>an actual Adachi foil
T. Stupid cat
>Sojiro: Futaba's mother committed suicide in front of her, and as a result Futaba became depressed and a shut-in.
>Ann: Oh was that because of her mothers suicide?
...
The stupid cat always starts with him and when he let him have it for once they all call him a dumb bully
Fuck the game sometimes
I nearly dropped it at that part honestly
The writing from then on to the end of the game is awful
You have no idea of what the fuck you're talking about.
>YOURE SO USELESS RYUJI LMAO KILL YOURSELF
>EWWW WHAT A CREEP STOP EXISTING IN THE SAME UNIVERSE AS LADY ANN
>LMAO YOU MISSED WHAT A FUCKING LOSER
>WHAT? YOU GOT DOWNED? THIS IS WHY YOUR PARENTS HATE YOU
>you know, morgana? you're kinda expendable
>NOOOOOOOO WHAT THE FUCK KILL YOURSELF RYUJI IM FUCKING OUT IM GONNA MAKE MY OWN PHANTOM THIEVES I FUCKING HOPE YOU ALL DIE
They were bickering back and forth all game, they told Ryuji to apologize once because Morgana had his feelings hurt by it, if Ryuji had his feelings hurt by it, they would have told Morgana the exact same.
to be fair, he's mostly shat on by Morgana who is the most thin-skinned shit-talker in the entire Persona series. Absolute emotional baby
Should've gotten a Paper Luigi, literally all the pieces of soul are there you just need like 2 competent writers and one person who understands a good battle system to make it based upon what luigi told you about his adventure while you were in and out of rogueport
Uhhh lol?
He did have his feelings hurt by it stupid cat simp thats why he lashed back at him
Ryuji just gets shit on and bullied the entire time and you cant do anything about it
>that watermark
why are p5 fans like this
>stolen reaction image
nah bro he's just your average phantom thief larper
>Persona 5 Royale DLC: Operation Salmon
>Sakamoto Abuses Little Morgana Over Night
The nigga almost died saving the team's ass in spite of his bum-leg and they *still* gave him shit. Fuck em.
>Ryuji is a dumbass
He is stupid, but a dumbass is Ann, i really hate everything about her.
>Polnareff is a dumbass but it's kinda sad to see him get shat on when he's the most normal person out of everyone there.
The Chariot curse
Ok, plot holes with the Akechi plan:
1. Akechi surely would have been informed that he didn't actually kill anyone as there are no bodies in the real world interrogation room. He would have been fooled, but only for a day at most before realizing Joker is still alive.
2. Sae and Joker escaped from the Police HQ in the middle of Tokyo, how did nobody notice her walking out with the countries most wanted criminal?
3. Sae was off the case, the entire plan hinged upon her deciding to come and interrogate him, which she might not have on a whim.
4. The SIU Director simply could have denied her access to the interrogation room.
5. Joker could have been unconscious because of the drugs and the beatings, or perhaps forgotten the plan entirely and failed to convince Sae.
6. They needed to time Akechi and Sae meeting each other at a very specific point in the hallway so the guard couldn't witness them disappearing into the Metaverse. If Sae had stayed in the interrogation room for even 5 seconds longer the plan wouldn't have worked because the Guard would have seen them disappear.
7. The Phatom Thieves just assume that they wont also be targeted next by Akechi after he kills their leader. Luckily he doesn't, pure plot contrivance.
8. Akechi decides not to arrest or put the other Phantom Thieves under surveillance despite knowing their identities, having evidence, and being aware that they could easily strike back and get revenge if they desired.
9. Akechi decides to not send anyone to investigate their hideout at Leblanc despite having more than enough evidence for a search warrant and even the right to arrest the other Thieves.
10. We saw that in Sae's Palace there were no cognitive people outside her Casino, the entire city was deserted and all the cognitive people appeared inside her palace. How were the Thieves sure that Joker would be an exception to this rule and have a perfect cognitive replica inside the interrogation room instead of inside her palace?
>and you cant do anything about it
I wish the game had had that extra layer of choices instead of having all that character stuff railed
same with mishima where you can choose between being an asshole to him or slightly less of an asshole before he goes full elliott rodger
kill yourself jojonigger
To understand how fucking great Ryuji is all you have to do is look at the events between Madarame and Kaneshiro's palace. The Phantom Thieves are being blackmailed by a bitch of a student council president who is gonna expose them if they don't do what she says. While they're scouting for info said bitch does something incredibly stupid and is now in danger. Now, at this point Ryuji doesn't like Makoto, he has no reason to. But once waving down a taxi doesn't work he doesn't hesitate for a second before jumping in front of a fucking car in order to stop one so they can chase after her. Ryuji doesn't get any praise for that, it isn't commented on, it's instantly forgotten once they meet Kaneshiro. But it was a goddamn hero moment.
Maybe if Ryuji learned to control his volume levels he would be better.
Fuck that chaotic good shit.
baste
Unironically would have been a fucking awesome MC. The twist would have still worked too.
Which twist? Would Tidus have been a thing at all?
But Ryuji and Yosuke are great because they're the MC's best friend, that's how they're given their spotlights. If they were the MCs themselves they would be severly neutered most likely.
That Auron is unsent.
Realy liked flynn wish he joined the party sooner.
I'm not reading all this shit but i probably agree with you. my main complaint with this entire half baked twist is that apparently the characters I'm playing as every waking moment of their lives put together this scheme without me, the player, being aware of it. having it depend on the player not noticing that obvious giant flashing stupid pancake hint was stupid as hell too. it's a fun game but the writing is godawful in the latter half
Would play.
After the first palace I thought Ryuji was on track to eclipse Junpei as the best supporting character in the new Personas but he devolves into the generic retarded comic relief character immediately after. It's like an entirely different writing team wrote everything after the first palace.
Literally all of the confidants outside of the actual Phantom Theives (Save for Ryuji) should have replaced the regular party members.
7, 8 and 9 are the most shocking. You'd think the entire PT would have to go off the grid but none of them do shit. Especially Futaba, who Akechi knows damn well is one of the best cybercriminals in the county at that point.
This game is Clannad tier with how they treat the sidekick