What Metroidvania has the best exploration potential and world design?

What Metroidvania has the best exploration potential and world design?

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world design
>ori
exploration
>definitely not shovel knight

They’re all trash

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la mulana

ori's world design is boring as shit and shovel knight is not a metroidvanias

post some examples of good world design from it.

I tried to play the first la mulana. The game definitely was clunky as shit. Every puzzle was non-sensically cryptic, and you could essentially softlock yourself every 5 minutes. It's sad because it looked interesting, but outdated as fuck. Not sure if the second is better.

cringe

Ori is not a metroidvania

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You have to have a pretty narrow definition for Ori to not be metroidvania.

Yes, it is very narrow and very faithful to the creator of the genre - SoTN. Since its release in 1997 I can cound about 4, may be 5 games that meet the definition and manage to present enough features that would fit a metroidvania.

Shitty indies, trying to cash in on the genre hype amongst the niche playerbase and calling every their pice of side-scrolling pixelshit a "metroidvania" managed to devalue terms in 20 years.
But oldfags remember and respect the values.

Fuck off Bugfags. Ori is better than R*ddit Knight and it's not even a competition. R*ddit Knight is a 2D Soulslike more than a metroidvania and it's very obvious especially considering you only get handful of useful upgrades for exploration. 2D Soulslike is a term that's an excuse to make half assed metroidvanias really and there is no exceptions to that rule.

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Can Terraria be considered a metroidvania?

Gotta be considered good AF to begin with before you can get overrated user

No.
There is plenty of genre definitions to go around. People need to stop trying to put their [one of] favorite genre onto another game of another genre just because they like it. "Metroidvania" is a very, VERY niche sub-genre definition that was supposed to group a very specific games together, separate from simple side-scrolling platformers. Terraria does not fit the criteria. Not Haydee, for example, despite devs trying hard to market as such. Yes, it has some core values, abut also lacks a lot and more importantly - it is 3D. 3D games, especially TPS, didnt really have much issues with world-exploration so they did dont really need to have metroidvania sub-genre to define type of game(s) they had long before SoTN made said specific sub-genre a thing.

Define Reddit as something else besides "thing i don't like" newfag

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pic extremely related no? hyper light drifter was pretty great too

Things that create attention in R*ddit. Such as Souls games and Hollow Knight. Don't tell me this doesn't smell R*ddit.

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>posting shitty fanart or "back up his point"

sure showed him

these things look better than the shitty enemy designs that hollow knight has tbqhwy

>you only get handful of useful upgrades for exploration
So in Ori you get:
>double jump
>air dash
>wall jump
>fireball
>ground pound
>bash
>super jump
>glide

And in HK you get:
>double jump
>air dash
>wall jump
>fireball
>ground pound
>hyper dash
>invincible dash
>firefly
Am I missing anything?

thats actually pretty good

Post more nigga. These look neat.

Here have a treat r*ddit.

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Based

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Last one.

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>exploration potential
What the fuck does that mean

>reddit likes it
>so I, i mean WE, are not allowed to like it anymore, right ?

>moths are dragons
that's clever and Oceiros' design is perfect