Sonic Forces

based lobotomy patient

That's fine, the game isn't dogshit on a 06 tier level despite seething autists claim it is, it's just not a great game to give a "Gens 2" title to it. It's better calling it Colors 2 or Colors Beta, because it feels almost like what would be a downport version of Colors quality wise.

The physics are completely fucked
Is this your first sonic game?
the plot is also complete garbage

It's short, has garbage physics and level design, the character creator is intentionally gimped so you can't make an OC 'cooler than Sonic', and it's so full of wasted fucking potential. No Chaos or Shadow fights, Infinite 3 is just the Metal Sonic fight again, for some reason you fight ZAVOK of all rivals, the stage with the Infinite monsters in the city were probably meant to be Perfect Chaoses before getting changed, etc. It's a waste of a game that looks even worse because it followed Mania.

>It's like they wanted to leave the door open for him to come back in future games but I guarantee that won't be happening, and even if it was they sacrificed the finale of his character arc in his DEBUT GAME and expected people to want to see him come back?
Oh yeah, no Infinite is dead. The comics have the same rule about not using him at all the same as Black Doom or Mephiles. Eggman unceremoniously just absorbs him into the Phantom Ruby.

Oh yeah this game happened. What fuck did they do with Infinite?
He just fucks off at end.

>modernfags hate it
>adventurefags hate it
>classicfags hate it
this game is truly something special

People waited 4 years for this piece of shit
It made everyone hyped with the return to seriousness then it did nothing with it as there is zero character development or any story at all.
Some of the music is good, thats it.
Dont pay more than $5 for it

I actually like 06 much better at least 06 had ambition and ideas

>It made everyone hyped with the return to seriousness then it did nothing with it as there is zero character development or any story at all
I'm not about to call the Better Business Bureau over it but showcasing Chaos 0 in the advertisements like this was damn near false advertising.

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Isn't it technically the most serious Sonic game though? It's got a war theme and Sonic is implied to die in the prologue. Eggman finally actually takes over the world.

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It basically proves it's impossible to pander to every era of Sonic at the same time, they are vastly different in tone and expectations.

Classic Sonic would never be in a world that looked like 06 with it's retarded realism trash. Adventure Sonic would never make dad jokes and meta humor like in boost era. And boost era doesn't have a place with physics based gameplay because of how boost even works.

They all need their own Mega Man approach to please everyone.

Serious doesn't matter if the story is fucking trashly handled. It's like saying someone being tryhard is as respectable at beings serious then a professional doing his job.

It's a much more linear and uninteresting Generations. The Classic Sonic bits are also much worse. The Avatar stages are kinda interesting but also pretty simple and they don't have a lot 3D to them.

Hell no, 06 has a much more serious tone by far. The presentation in-game for Forces is not serious at all. Sonic is "implied" to die (but everyone, even the five year olds playing know he's not dead). He's "implied" to have been tortured, but I think this was something straight up invented during localization, and it's not reflected in-game AT ALL, Sonic acts the same as he always does. They wanted to have their cake and eat it too, the game TELLS YOU it's a "serious" story but the ENTIRE GAME front to back is the same Pontaff cheesiness we've been getting since Sonic Colors. The one exception is the Infinite stuff which is so cheesy that it's kind of endearing but it's also sad because you can tell they actually thought this was edgy and cool unironically, when they should have actually considered leaning into the campiness of it.

Thematically, yes, but you don't fucking SEE anything actually bad happen. You're just told "war bad" between levels.

On paper maybe yes but then you need to have something actually fucking happen in the actual game.
Where are the cutscenes with big epic battles there is just that awful thing at the end where the armies clash which looks like a child playing with their figurines and lining them up its so embarrassing, why is there no character exploration at all, why is knux here instead of with the emerald what has Amy been doing, why is tails a coward again (its ok to make him into one if you give me a fucking reason, maybe he is traumatized by the war but fucking show it)
You can criticize the dark era of sonic as being bad or make the argument sonic should have plot but you cannot bait and switch your customers like this of course people will be angry.
And if the game was fun to play or had great levels but not even that.
Game still sold millions because its sonic
Fuck this fanbase

This is correct

It's basically Generations 2 only in that Sonic and Classic Sonic are here. The gameplay is considerably worse. That said, I really don't think that it's among the worst 3D Sonic games. As far as non-Sonic padding goes, the Avatar stages are not bad.

He didn't just fuck off at the end. He fucking died. I'm pretty sure he disintegrated into nothing at some point.

It's Generations 2 in mechanics but not in quality. Go back and forth between the two games and you will see how half-assed Forces does it compared to Generations.

The first Infinite fight and final boss fight are pretty good at least

>Eggman finally actually takes over the world.
Oh and just to add onto this it's barely shown, I mean we get it via a fucking text slide on a black screen, and for most of the game it's abstracted as just colors on a globe and percentage points. Like yes you do see some levels with the generic Death Egg Robots smashing some vague generic downtown area with animal people we've never once seen before, that's actually not too bad, but ultimately it's established that he takes over 99.9% of the world entirely due to Infinite and the power of his illusions/reality warping powers, not really truly by his own merit. Not to mention it's kind of insulting that every single other sonic character combined is completely helpless without Sonic, they try to have a "Resistance" with Knuckles as the leader but it makes him look more like an incompetent dumbfuck than anything. Let's not even get started on how this game continues to piss on the grave of Tails' characterization. Basically if you think just because Eggman has taken over the world it's automatically dark then Sonic SatAM must objectively be the darkest Sonic property.

And WHY THE FUCK IS MOST OF THE GAME 2D
I THOUGHT THIS WAS A 3D SONIC GAME
NO MORE 2D SECTIONS IN 3D SONIC GAMES YOU MOTHERFUCKERS

Man, such as good concept for a game, WASTED.

>He didn't just fuck off at the end. He fucking died. I'm pretty sure he disintegrated into nothing at some point.
No, he literally just fucks off. He flies away and you never see him after that and he's never mentioned again.